CON-COR's new Rigid Jaw couplers

[up1950s]

Starting a dedicated thread to this as I think it's worth it .



David Smith told me there was a thread already started on this topic by NandW . I was unaware of it , sorry . "Um... hate to tell you, but we already had one..." http://therailwire.net/forum/index.php/topic,21612.0.html

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The couplers seem interesting.  Anyone with experience with them out there?
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Quote from: rochsub on Yesterday at 04:17:08 PM
The couplers seem interesting.  Anyone with experience with them out there?
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Quote from: rochsub on Yesterday at 04:17:08 PM
The couplers seem interesting.  Anyone with experience with them out there?

Daryl

If the couplers are non-operating or "dummy" couplers, then what's the trip pin for?!  Con-Cor advertises that you will save $4.00 to $6.00 retail per car, if you use their coupler.  I don't need to save money that badly, if they're non-operating.  I can see an advantage to those modelers who don't break up their unit trains, though.

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If the couplers are non-operating or "dummy" couplers, then what's the trip pin for?!

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Con-Cor's ad states

" In keeping with our desire to have a realistic coupler, we even designed in a fake "trip pin" which simulates the between car air-hoses, but also when mixed in a train of Micro-Train brand couplers, you can not tell the difference between Con-Cor and MicroTrains even when only inches away!"

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If the couplers are non-operating or "dummy" couplers, then what's the trip pin for?!

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In keeping with our desire to have a realistic coupler, we even designed in a fake "trip pin" which simulates the between car air-hoses, but also when mixed in a train of Micro-Train brand couplers, you can not tell the difference between Con-Cor and MicroTrains even when only inches away!

Yeah, I saw that, but, to me, the trip pins are a dead giveaway in a photo that a model is fake.  They have never simulated air hoses, in my perspective, and are an eyesore.  I lop 'em off, because I don't use the magnetic uncoupling feature of knuckle couplers.

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I wonder if Con-Cor will make their Rigid Jaw couplers in various shank lengths and offset jaws . That would be great for many applications such as cab units , ore cars , pilots , etc . I would love to have these to mess with . And the best part is no slinky with something we want close coupled , which they never mentioned in their ad . Less bulky looking than the Red Caboose ones . Con-Cor could be the one to use , if they made these easily available .  
 
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I'm thinking about maybe going with the Con Cor couplers for my passenger train (with trip pins removed, egads!) and on the cab ends of the 70 tonners I plan to get.
  
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[Sokramiketes]

I'm less than excited about these for a couple reasons.

Intermountain's single piece couplers coupled OK, but also uncoupled frequently while running, because if there is enough slack in a fixed jaw coupler to automatically couple when the cars are pushed together, then the cars can bounce apart just as easily. 

The other fixed couplers are the Unimate style, which stay coupled through most anything, but won't couple when bumped together.  They require lifting the cars/engines to couple.

So, which of the two options will ConCor employ?  Neither is ideal. 

Second, if I'm going to go to a fixed jaw coupler, I'm going to want something that looks good if I'm giving up function.  Copying the look of the MTL coupler, right down to a fake trip pin, is useless to me.

A perfect coupler (for me anyway) almost has to be two piece, should look like a prototype coupler even if not exact scale, and should have a slim and short box for convenient mounting.   

[rswinnerton]

Perhaps one could prod BLMA into revolutionizing N scale couplers. If Craig can make couplers half as nice as the trucks, youse n scalers will be all set!

[Sokramiketes]

Perhaps one could prod BLMA into revolutionizing N scale couplers. If Craig can make couplers half as nice as the trucks, youse n scalers will be all set!

He has a good design in hand and no one to build them. 

[DKS]

Starting a dedicated thread to this as I think it's worth it .

Um... hate to tell you, but we already had one...

http://therailwire.net/forum/index.php/topic,21612.0.html

[tom mann]

Perhaps one could prod BLMA into revolutionizing N scale couplers. If Craig can make couplers half as nice as the trucks, youse n scalers will be all set!

He has a good design in hand and no one to build them. 

Uh...spoiler alert?!

[ednadolski]

Perhaps one could prod BLMA into revolutionizing N scale couplers. If Craig can make couplers half as nice as the trucks, youse n scalers will be all set!

He has a good design in hand and no one to build them. 

Uh...spoiler alert?!

Hope so!   

[Sokramiketes]

Perhaps one could prod BLMA into revolutionizing N scale couplers. If Craig can make couplers half as nice as the trucks, youse n scalers will be all set!

He has a good design in hand and no one to build them. 

Uh...spoiler alert?!

Don't see how, Craig has dropped the not-so-subtle hints here, and Robbman confirmed that it was in need of a re-design in another thread here awhile ago.  I presume the only reason they haven't dropped yet is because no one has built them for him... yet. 

[ednadolski]

Craig has dropped the not-so-subtle hints here, and Robbman confirmed that it was in need of a re-design in another thread here awhile ago.  I presume the only reason they haven't dropped yet is because no one has built them for him... yet. 

Hopefully it's a bit closer to scale size than the MTs or McHenrys.  But I'd be happy so long as it looks decent, operates reliably, and doesn't pogo.  Speaking just for myself, "automatic" operation and interoperability with existing couplers are optional features.

Maybe Craig can offer them in bulk packs of 1000 pairs (ok, maybe at least 100 pairs)   

Ed

[up1950s]

Starting a dedicated thread to this as I think it's worth it .

Um... hate to tell you, but we already had one...

http://therailwire.net/forum/index.php/topic,21612.0.html

Wow , I never saw that one . Maybe the mods could combine everything .

[up1950s]

Got this today , at the bottom section it shows what they are selling and the prices . No pre holed ones without trucks offered . Bummer

http://www.con-cor.com/CouplerConversions.html

[Hyperion]

Funny how they keep harping on the supposed $4-$6/car cost of Micro-Trains, but they themselves at the bottom of the page, sell their own trucks equipped with either their new coupler or MTs, and the difference is only $2.30/pr -- better than half their purported price advantage.  And that's compared to Con-Cor selling it's own coupler, surely a 3rd party would have an even less price difference between the two as they'd have to pay Con-Cor's margin for their coupler, and that's on loose trucks that's bound to be a more expensive MT application than an entire run of cars with them installed.

Interestingly enough, the metal wheelsets they keep touting, at a $3.30/set premium per their own pricing, add more to the cost of a car than the MT coupler whose cost they complain about.