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New N hopper from... Walthers
« on: June 04, 2010, 03:46:32 PM »
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George at Wig-Wag has them listed on his site but nothing on Wally's website. An all new car in N from Wonka. So let me ask this now, would the WC cars have been around in the 1987-89 time frame?

http://www.wig-wag-trains.com/Walthers/Walthers_100-Ton-2Bay-Hopper_Product-Page.html
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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2010, 03:52:04 PM »
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Those are cool cars.

I see lots of em in NS ballast service.

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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2010, 03:59:34 PM »
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Interesting ...

HO Version:
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-7415

Does NS actually have these? These seem pretty modern, past my era (1980s+). BUT, the build date for the HS31a on Joe Shaw's page below is 1970.

Joe Shaw lists them as Aggregate Service:

Included here is the proto for the HO Walthers paint:
http://www.krunk.org/~joeshaw/pics/ns/ag-hop

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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2010, 04:28:34 PM »
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I thought they were in Bauxite import service (from one of the southern east coast ports)

I've seen them in an NS video...

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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2010, 04:55:03 PM »
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Good lord Walthers does a new car! If they are anything like the Difco side dump these should be sweet. I'll pick up a few just to prove we do purchase stuff in this scale.
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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2010, 05:54:17 PM »
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They're old enough to have served Southern.  They haul some sort of silicate stuff that's used for making fiberglass (the name of the substance escapes me for the moment) from the port in Morehead.
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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2010, 06:06:01 PM »
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Good lord Walthers does a new car! If they are anything like the Difco side dump these should be sweet. I'll pick up a few just to prove we do purchase stuff in this scale.

Yup, I figured on doing the same thing. If WC is out of my era, I suppose a SOU or two and an NS may have wandered to the great white north for some reason or another.
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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2010, 06:13:02 PM »
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Interesting ...

HO Version:
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-7415

Does NS actually have these? These seem pretty modern, past my era (1980s+). BUT, the build date for the HS31a on Joe Shaw's page below is 1970.

Jow Shaw lists them as Aggregate Service:

Included here is the proto for the HO Walthers paint:
http://www.krunk.org/~joeshaw/pics/ns/ag-hop

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NS has a boatload of former Southern Greenvilles... primarily used in aggregate service and MofW ballast these days, but it's not a specialized car, so any service that requires an open hopper for dense materials you could find them in.  Par for the course for NS... Southerns Greenvilles differ from everybody elses in that they have a riveted center side stake...

As for era... they were built from 1970 to 1979 in various iterations... Southern and Southern Pacific (even if you omit the PC&F built clones) were by far the largest owners.

Walthers HO model was a hodgepodge... darn close to a 2100cu ft car (a la Southern), but having a welded center side stake, a la SPs 2300 cu ft cars.

Hopefully, they won't be anything like the Difco's... while a decent car for what it is... it's not exactly the cat's meow... having the brake cylinder sticking off into space (and if I rmemeber correctly, pointing in the wrong direction) with no rigging is a real detractor... as was the jump in MSRP from 14.98 to 19.98...

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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2010, 06:35:10 PM »
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George at Wig-Wag has them listed on his site but nothing on Wally's website. An all new car in N from Wonka. So let me ask this now, would the WC cars have been around in the 1987-89 time frame?

http://www.wig-wag-trains.com/Walthers/Walthers_100-Ton-2Bay-Hopper_Product-Page.html

I think that this is a bit early for WC cars. The latest version of the WC started in October 1987 and in the early days ran an assortment of mostly old Soo Line and Milwaukee Road equipment...basically stuff the Soo wanted to part with. I suspect that these cars weren't picked up until somewhere in the mid 1990's, as they aren't listed under the 34000 number series in my 1992 ORER.

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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2010, 08:27:40 PM »
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Well that figures, now that I finally have my FOURTEEN foobie "Greenville" cars almost ready for the paintshop.  But they're still not really close so I can't complain too loudly although I did just plunk down the $30 for decals for them all. (some of which will still make it onto some of the Walthers cars I would imagine...)   The price is right and hopefully they'll be decent cars.

I agree the Difco's were "OK" at the lower MSRP but then Walthers got a little slap happy.  Of course, the almost immediately put them on sale.  Seems the must have retained a few Life-Like guys.
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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2010, 01:11:45 AM »
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"NS has a boatload of former Southern Greenvilles... primarily used in aggregate service and MofW ballast these days, but it's not a specialized car, so any service that requires an open hopper for dense materials you could find them in."

Delivery of these cars started on the Southern in the early-70s and they could be found hauling aggregate, agricultural lime (for farms) and sand (for cement plants, not locomotives).

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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2010, 01:14:19 AM »
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Sweet!

Walthers could do 3 new Espee numbers every few months for this car:



http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/hopper/h100-29.htm

H-100-29 Greenville 2300cuft built 1974, SP 465000 - 465699.

Another car off the wish-list, I asked MTL for these cars on Joe's old Trainboard thread many moons ago.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2010, 01:16:04 AM by James Costello »
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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2010, 02:22:03 AM »
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Quote button exists for a reason Jerry...  ;)

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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2010, 05:13:47 AM »
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I know a couple of members are going to be excited that they can do these cars now!!!! ;D
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Re: New N hopper from... Walthers
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2010, 08:10:06 AM »
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Okay the obvious question.  Why is there such a big spacing between the hopper chutes.  I can't imagine that the entire middle of the car is comprised of slope sheets, or is it?  If so, it seems like a waste of materials.  So what's the story?