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http://www.railcollector.com/beep.htm
This is a Beep.It is a horrid piece of sacrilige. Santa Fe should burn in hell for this abomination.The things to which you are also refering are nearly equal abominations.
Continuing with the WTF orientation of the thread originally:http://cgi.ebay.com/BIG-LOT-N-SCALE-FREIGHT-TANK-HOPPER-FLAT-253-CARS_W0QQitemZ360236157086QQcmdZViewItemQQptZModel_RR_Trains?hash=item53dfbf889e
Old Marx?Atlas sells this ore/gondola right now.https://secure.atlasrr.com/ato1/items.asp?Cc=0181&iTpStatus=0&Tp=&Bc=
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