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ljudice

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Atlas SD60M's
« on: October 31, 2009, 02:25:09 PM »
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Anyone know why the sill on Atlas SD60M's is so high? Is this just a difficult part to make the correct size or what?


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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2009, 03:10:13 PM »
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It's for extra clearance. They don't want that "hopping" center axle to hit it :o
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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2009, 02:26:54 AM »
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Take one apart and look at their gear tower design. That's what makes them seem to be "high-riders". How much is one scale foot in N-scale? 1.92mm, a tiny bit more than 1/16th of an inch. Many, many HO engines are farther out-of scale than that. For durability's sake, most desiels hoods are thicker plastic, and they are a little too wide too. Until working with tungsten becomes practical (I don't see that happening right away), it's darn near impossible to get enough weight in N-scale locomotives, so an extra mm of Zamac frame is the price we pay. In many cases, it boils down to perfect scale accuracy vs: cost effective/good running mechanism. BTW: I've never seen all the bad SD50/60's I've heard about. We had a couple of DOA's and one with a "locked-up" truck, but all the "war stories", I've never seen one of. I don't know- my four run perfectly, always have.

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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 03:35:57 AM »
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bachmanns dd40, if i did not read about the body being to wide
i would have never known ;)

ljudice

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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2009, 11:41:12 PM »
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thanks Walkercolt, I figured it was something like this... 

It makes the frame stripes on BN units look really wrong though....   :-X

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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2009, 07:39:17 AM »
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I had some similar issues with the SD60's not looking right- somehow they always looked off, discussed a ways back in this trainboard thread:

http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/showthread.php?t=99302&highlight=SD60


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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2009, 10:33:56 AM »
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I'm confused. Are these taller than other N scale EMDs?





Just the facts, where is it off? Or is it just the SD60M? Though I'm having a hard time imagining that the sill on the M would be different that on the "standard" cab ...

Thanks!

Mark


ljudice

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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009, 11:43:56 AM »
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Mark - it's the engineer's side that has the bigger problem...

It's especially pronounced on BN, CR and NS units with the white frame stripes...


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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2009, 09:27:15 PM »
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Lou, I have 9277 in my hands, it is on an old high speed motor chassis, do not know if that is the correct chassis. It is one I am decodering for a customer. I can't see what you mean. Bob.

ljudice

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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2009, 09:17:36 AM »
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Take a look at this loco - the width of the frame stripes and the frame and compare to the model:



« Last Edit: November 03, 2009, 09:20:02 AM by ljudice »

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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2009, 09:42:54 AM »
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Interesting! Are the standard cabs the same way?

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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2009, 09:46:35 AM »
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Interesting! Are the standard cabs the same way?

If I get a chance I'll take some pix of my standard cab. Meanwhile I posted the stock Atlas pic above.


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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2009, 09:55:50 AM »
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Here's a better comparison on the BN unit:





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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2009, 10:32:57 AM »
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Interesting. I never noticed it before. Bob.

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Re: Atlas SD60M's
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2009, 10:35:16 AM »
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That over-height area is for the brass pickup strip to reside in.
Personally, I would rather have something a touch oversize, if it meant a big improvement in operation and reliability.
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