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PC BOXCAR
« on: September 04, 2009, 01:47:25 PM »
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Man this is beauty http://thecrhs.org/image/view/7422/_original  I would love to aquire one these. This looks like a 60' car
but not a Hy-cube I'll have to see what models could be used for this one. This one is cool also http://thecrhs.org/image/view/8884/_original.

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Re: PC BOXCAR
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2009, 03:31:44 PM »
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Those actually look almost like the Atlas 60' autoparts cars. Which, for some reason have never been done in CR (for a reason I'm STILL trying to figure out).

But I could be really far off. I'm actually pretty bad at freight car IDing.

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Re: PC BOXCAR
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2009, 03:42:35 PM »
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There's a small group of those that have been sitting in a yard in Omaha the past 2 years.  They seem to move around a bit maybe, but never leave the yard.  By now the PC logo is virtually invisible.
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Re: PC BOXCAR
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2009, 03:47:00 PM »
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Mark, are you thinking about the Kelloggs cars that are stashed out there?

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Re: PC BOXCAR
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2009, 04:07:07 PM »
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Mark, are you thinking about the Kelloggs cars that are stashed out there?

Like this one..

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Re: PC BOXCAR
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2009, 02:32:17 AM »
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Mark, are you thinking about the Kelloggs cars that are stashed out there?

They very well could be, I dunno.  I always see them from the freeway and can't see what the reporting marks are on them.

They do appear to be painted out similar to the above photo, except the color difference of the paint out isn't as stark as I recall.  They look like they were painted out decades ago.  I never paid all that much attention to them, I just noticed  the vague outlines of the PC logo and the fact that they've always been sitting there for as long as I've lived up here.  Now that I think about it though, they are rib-sided like the photo above, not smooth like the OP shot.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2009, 02:35:14 AM by Hyperion »
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Re: PC BOXCAR
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2009, 10:24:17 PM »
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Those actually look almost like the Atlas 60' autoparts cars. Which, for some reason have never been done in CR (for a reason I'm STILL trying to figure out).

But I could be really far off. I'm actually pretty bad at freight car IDing.

Sills are different, as are the sides (the Atlas model has the slightly-recessed panels to the right of the doors. It would pass the 3-foot rule, but wouldn't hold up to close inspection.
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Re: PC BOXCAR
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2009, 11:18:02 PM »
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The two cars from the original post are either ex PRR X61's or X61C's.  As Sean mentioned, these are not an exact match for the Atlas 60' Single Door Car.  The PRR built the X61's in Hollidaysburg to their own design.  The side sills are different (X61 extends to the end of the car), the X61's are riveted (ACF cars are welded), and the ACF cars have the trademark "Precision Design" panels (X61's lack this).  If you want to use the Atlas car to model a Conrail car, look for photos of Conrail class BE60C boxcars.  These are ex Erie Lackawanna cars that are just about a perfect match for the Atlas car.  In fact, Atlas painted at least three EL numbers in the first couple runs.  Another very close match for the Atlas car is a Conrail class BE60A.  The major differences between it and the Atlas car are the BE60A has full length ladders and running boards (Conrail removed them) and it lacks the "Precision Design" panels.  I can live with this!  I would also offer that an ex PRR class X59A is a very close match for the Atlas 60' car.  It has the same drawbacks as the BE60A, but again, I can live with it.  I suggest looking at the Conrail Historical Society's web page for some shots of the three aforementioned classes of cars.  I have decalled 2 BE60C's, 3 BE60A's, and 4 X59A's.  I also have one more BE60A and X59A waiting their turn on my decal bench.  I hope this helps.
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Re: PC BOXCAR
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2009, 11:22:12 PM »
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The X59A is a very good match for the Atlas 60' DOUBLE Door Boxcar.  I left out the "Double" in my last post.  Thanks.
Jeff Lopez