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New Motor for a Rivarossi Challenger - Victor? You out there?
« on: August 08, 2009, 10:33:40 AM »
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I've been tasked with repairing the old Rivarossi Challenger for the WMRHS collection.  



At some point in its long career, the front engine locked up, and she sat buzzing away unattended for an extended period of time, causing the motor to overheat.  The armature itself seems okay, but the plastic bit that houses the brushes was devoured.  There was a feeble attempt to repair it, (actually, two feeble attempts, the second being mine last night).  Anyway, the motor runs and seems fine, but it heats up to an unacceptable level, which I'm assuming is evidence of residual damage from the original overheat.  

So now the challenge is to find a new motor for this beastie.  I looked at some Atlas motors to see if there was a possibility, but the frame is too long for the available space.  The closest I could get was a motor from an A/K RS-3, but even that was long by about 1/8".

The original motor is an open frame 3-pole affair, with the worm screws mounted right to the shaft.  (The A/K motor shaft is a tad small for that task, too...)

Here's the motor in question:




The second shows my repair, I built a little styrene shim and reamed out a spot for the brush housing.  It works, and the motor runs, but it still runs really hot.  I could re-assemble as is, but I suspect it would be a very temporary fix.  I'm looking for something a little more permanent.

What to do, what to do?

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Re: New Motor for a Rivarossi Challenger - Victor? You out there?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2009, 01:42:37 PM »
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I'd go North West Shortline.  Their inventory of motors in all sizes is pretty phenominal, and I bet they could get you a five pole or even a can that would fit in the same space.

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Re: New Motor for a Rivarossi Challenger - Victor? You out there?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2009, 02:22:30 PM »
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Re: New Motor for a Rivarossi Challenger - Victor? You out there?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2009, 03:57:22 PM »
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Lee try looking for a running ConCor SD-40/SD-40-2 they have the same motors.

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Re: New Motor for a Rivarossi Challenger - Victor? You out there?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2009, 04:27:18 PM »
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Lee try looking for a running ConCor SD-40/SD-40-2 they have the same motors.

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I think I have some of those some where ..

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Re: New Motor for a Rivarossi Challenger - Victor? You out there?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2009, 04:40:26 PM »
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Eldon "The Motorman" has motors for the RR Challaenger.

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Re: New Motor for a Rivarossi Challenger - Victor? You out there?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2009, 03:13:11 AM »
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The 10mm x 12mm Sagami (rare as chickens with lips now) is THE replacement motor for the Con-Cor Challenger or Big-Boy. It's can motor, not positive now if it's 5 or 7 pole, but it has enourmous low-end torque. It improves the running qualities of any Con-Cor steam it will fit into. I have one left, and I'm not parting with it, but I have seen them in "junk boxes" at train shows, or there's Fee-Bay... ::)