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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2009, 02:04:47 PM »
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My guess is the walkways are painted blue at the factory, then overcoated with a black non-skid material, either a rubber matt or some sort of painted on stuff.  As it would wear off, the blue would show through.  So it's probably a matter of the level of weathering.

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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2009, 02:45:09 PM »
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would it be worse than the anxiety of having a disproportionate number of SD60's???

Sounds like I may need Ambien....

Zoloft man... evens you out.

CR had what, 25 SD60's vs 135 SD50's? One SD60 for every 5.4 SD50.

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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2009, 02:48:56 PM »
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CR had what, 25 SD60's vs 135 SD50's? One SD60 for every 5.4 SD50.

What's 0.4 of an SD50?  An SD20 perhaps?  ;D

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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2009, 02:51:47 PM »
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Lee - no doubt you're right about some units, but on others there was factory black and or blue paint. There was also a cutover point - somewhere around 1988-9 or so.  One of the many oddities of Conrail paint jobs.

The real problem is that so few pictures are taken DOWNWARDS...

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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2009, 03:34:13 PM »
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You'll have to manually modify the HTCs.

I've actually just finished this on a unit, I think I took some pics, let me see if I can dig them up.

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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2009, 09:10:19 PM »
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My guess is the walkways are painted blue at the factory, then overcoated with a black non-skid material, either a rubber matt or some sort of painted on stuff.  As it would wear off, the blue would show through.  So it's probably a matter of the level of weathering.


We have a winnah. Standard practice, if there was such a thing on Conrail, was new units from EMD or GE would have blue walkways, but Juniata would typically apply the black non-skid coating when the unit was shopped for whatever reason.
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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2009, 09:15:27 PM »
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Wow!  So Johnny, tell me what I've won?!!

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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2009, 09:27:22 PM »
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We have a winnah. Standard practice, if there was such a thing on Conrail, was new units from EMD or GE would have blue walkways, but Juniata would typically apply the black non-skid coating when the unit was shopped for whatever reason.


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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2009, 09:28:08 PM »
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My guess is the walkways are painted blue at the factory, then overcoated with a black non-skid material, either a rubber matt or some sort of painted on stuff.  As it would wear off, the blue would show through.  So it's probably a matter of the level of weathering.


We have a winnah. Standard practice, if there was such a thing on Conrail, was new units from EMD or GE would have blue walkways, but Juniata would typically apply the black non-skid coating when the unit was shopped for whatever reason.

We REALLY need to cite some sources on that and put it on the CRHS site. This question comes up ALL the time.

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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2009, 09:32:10 PM »
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All these years and I thought that we PRR fans were crazy about what is correct for Tuscan Red.  Your beating us ::)

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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2009, 07:55:36 AM »
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I don't think so... There are photos (in CR the Final Years) of units DAYS OLD with black walkways. It's related to the date (post 1988/89) and of course complicated since the shops may have added it at certain times to repaints.

But it's not consistent - even white frame stripe units have blue walkways and some have black.


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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2009, 10:33:24 AM »
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All these years and I thought that we PRR fans were crazy about what is correct for Tuscan Red.  Your beating us ::)

Oh yeah, don't even THINK "walkway color" at the RBQ...

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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2009, 01:33:45 PM »
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Pictures of tuck mod found...



You'll see what I did there, shaved off (poorly) the shock absorber from the middle axle, cut off the "horns" at the end, and filled in some holes.

It's not absolutely accurate, but when painted black, gets the job done to my standards.

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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2009, 01:41:01 PM »
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works for me Ed - as close as you need to be.

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Re: Conrail SD50/60
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2009, 05:15:26 PM »
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Ed,

May I suggest a simple mod to make that better? Shave off that "hump" in the middle of the sideframe like this:



One Flexicoil variant:

http://www.hosam.com/emd/emd6a.html

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