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Have any used Bullfrog Snot for traction ?
« on: December 10, 2008, 03:55:18 PM »
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The Trainboard has a thread with vendor participation on this toothpick twirl on traction tire called Bullfrog Snot . http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/showthread.php?t=104696

I never heard of this stuff , but sounds interesting , if nothing else than shows where the wow factor is really desired . Anybody try this stuff ?


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Re: Have any used Bullfrog Snot for traction ?
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2008, 09:00:43 PM »
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I think I had some on my garden railroad...
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Re: Have any used Bullfrog Snot for traction ?
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2008, 10:43:28 PM »
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I generally use lark's vomit.

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Re: Have any used Bullfrog Snot for traction ?
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2008, 10:54:53 PM »
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Actually one really can use that stuff as a liquid insulating material , so it's not do or die then eat a total loss . Maybe even a GOO substitute . Removable screw loc-tight is another possibility . I am on the fence , but as soon as I hear of some recent layout reports of success , I will spring for it .


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Re: Have any used Bullfrog Snot for traction ?
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2008, 06:19:47 PM »
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I generally use lark's vomit.

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Re: Have any used Bullfrog Snot for traction ?
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2008, 06:55:38 PM »
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I wonder how well this stuff would work in place of Capton tape for
insulating against shorts?
I may have to buy this Snot. ;D
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Re: Have any used Bullfrog Snot for traction ?
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2008, 03:57:40 PM »
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Re: Have any used Bullfrog Snot for traction ?
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2008, 02:33:19 PM »
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I asked Bill for a sample . Plan on doing a grams test before and after , as well as looking for wobble on some anemic steamer , maybe that MP 2-8-2 would be a good example . Without a traction tire it stinks , with one , it's super good . I already did a TT install on one of 2 I have , so I then can compare how a TT installed one matches up to a snotted one . Sounds like a good test . 


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Re: Have any used Bullfrog Snot for traction ?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2008, 06:57:40 PM »
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Ok , first tests for me . I had converted a MP 2-8-2 to OEM traction tires which brought up the grams pull from about 5 to 42 , which is very very high , just below the Athearn 4-6-6-4 which is 55 grams . I haven't tested my Big Boy yet . I have another MP 2-8-2 without traction tires , which I put Bullfrog Snot on , One wheel a bit thicker than the other , which I will redo when I have a moment . Went from 5 grams pull to 15 , and my coats may need to be thicker . So on first tests that equals a Kato F-3 , ER Shark , Con-Cor 2-10-2 , PCM E-7 , IMRC FT , or Atlas RSD-12 . All without the hell that is the MP driver swap . I need to practice the application , and I used a hot lamp to speed up the drying time while the wheels were in a slow rotisserie spin for an hour . Actually my very first attempt failed , NOT DUE to the Snot , but a tried to apply this without snipping off the brake shoes fore and aft of the rear driver set . The shoes grabbed the Snot and made a mess . I let it dry a bit and tried to get it off by turning the loco into a lathe , and applying a small chisel xacto type thingy to the drivers . It was working , till the wheels came off the axles , and quartering was lost on 3 axles , which means all 4 were all over the place . I aligned the quartering , checked gauge an ACC'ed the ends of the axles . Then picked the Snot of the rods , and lathed the drivers clean as I described before . This Snot really adheres well to the drivers .

So , in a word . IT WORKS . I just need to develop my application skills . I know now that I can triple the pulling power of a non traction tired loco , if I can afford the reduced continuity . That makes me feel a lot better about the anemic ones I have . Bet that Walthers 0-8-0 can be improved .

Thanks Bill , we have a new option .


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