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ryourstone

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G's in stock at Kleins
« on: September 05, 2008, 08:50:56 PM »
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Though just decreased by another 2  ;D

I had 2 reserved elsewhere, but dunno if I got my reservation in on time for the first run.... At worst case I'll have 4 sometime next week!

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Re: G's in stock at Kleins
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2008, 10:20:16 PM »
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They won't be in stock for much longer...as of 10 PM EDT they were down to 3 in stock.  I notcied them on the website yesterday afternoon and they showed 36 in-stock; I ordered mine last night.

Tim

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Re: G's in stock at Kleins
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2008, 10:53:32 PM »
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Picked mine up at 1:30 Today, they had 20 left. I got the last decoder which has to be modified a little to fit. The motor "wings" need to be re bent to span the GG1's motor. Need to make them match the analog wings.

Martin

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Re: G's in stock at Kleins
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2008, 07:32:16 AM »
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As of 7:30 this morning they are sold out. 

Martin - you going to give us a rundown on how it runs?

Bob

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Re: G's in stock at Kleins
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2008, 12:15:38 PM »
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Since I only have a K1 test loop set up I'll describe it best as I can. It negotiates a 12 inch curve but looks awkward doing it.
Basically it runs smooth like any Kato diesel mechanism. I expected no less.
It's a 6 wheel diesel type split frame mechanism. The pilot trucks are articulated to each drive truck. Couplers and pilots are truck mounted.
Pantograph's are a mix of plastic and blackened etched brass. They are lacey but the top runner and bottom frame are the plastic parts. Making them operational would require a rebuild. They are a friction fit rather than spring loaded so they won't unlock and immediately shoot up to full extension.

Martin

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Re: G's in stock at Kleins
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2008, 12:50:44 PM »
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Thanks Martin.  I've had one on order and expect it any day.  Like you all I have now is a test loop.
Bob

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Re: G's in stock at Kleins
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2008, 02:44:01 PM »
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Picked mine up at 1:30 Today, they had 20 left. I got the last decoder which has to be modified a little to fit. The motor "wings" need to be re bent to span the GG1's motor. Need to make them match the analog wings.

Martin


Martin - could you elaborate a bit on this?  What brand/model of decoder did you use?  Thanks, Jack

All - photos would be great!!!!

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Re: G's in stock at Kleins
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2008, 03:47:01 PM »
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Here ya go:
BTW, Victor posted an "exploded view" on the Atlas forum

Received my GG1 today and went to work installing the recommended
decoder. DN163K1C is NOT a drop in decoder. Close, but not quite.

The GG1 motor is rotated 90 degrees so that the brush caps are on the
sides.
There are no brass strips as the other Kato diesels(SD40-2)this
decoder was designed to fit. The decoder wings contact directly on the
brush caps. Kato has provided a nice plastic cap that locks everything
in and insulates the wings from contact with the frames. I added some
kapton tape but really don't believe it was needed.

The decoder wings need to be re-shaped to match the wings on the stock
analog circuit board. Doing so will widen the space so they will slip
over the brush caps. After re-shaping, they will have to be cut down
to match the length of the stock wings. As they are, the wings will
bottom out on the frame halves (bad for the decoder) and keep the
decoder from seating properly.
I also needed to trim a little extra cicuit board from the short end
of the board so that it would slip in under the frame. A pass or two
with a file clean the excess off and achieved a nice fit.
There are two light tubes inside the engine. The short one is NOT
reinstalled with the decoder. The long one at the opposite end needs
to be cut off. It can be easily cut with a pair of rail nippers at the
notch. The notch is at the end that originally fit over the analog
board. The decoder's led is right at the end of the board so the extra
length isn't needed.

This is definitely not a drop in job. The modifications to the decoder
will probably void its warranty so test it before starting. Cutting
the light tube will affect the headlight at one end if ever returned to
stock analog operation.
There was no documentation included with my engine, not even an
exploded parts diagram.

Martin
   

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Re: G's in stock at Kleins
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2008, 03:47:58 PM »
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Picked mine up at 1:30 Today, they had 20 left. I got the last decoder which has to be modified a little to fit. The motor "wings" need to be re bent to span the GG1's motor. Need to make them match the analog wings.

Martin


Martin - could you elaborate a bit on this?  What brand/model of decoder did you use?  Thanks, Jack

All - photos would be great!!!!

Jack:

The Digtrax DN 163K1C fits the Kato Mikado It's the same decoder they use in the Kato SD-40-2's


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Re: G's in stock at Kleins
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2008, 05:05:56 PM »
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Martin/Bob - thanks for the info!  I held off ordering a decoder, hoping someone would report on how the installation goes.  It doesn't sound too bad.