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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2008, 10:51:11 PM »
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is there a special reason for the upside down grab iron... ?

yes, notice the sand fill access hatch - can't open it if a grab iron is in the way can ya?
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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2008, 11:17:33 PM »
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That is an incredible looking model.

Wow.

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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2008, 11:45:37 PM »
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yes, notice the sand fill access hatch - can't open it if a grab iron is in the way can ya?

oh my baron sir, I am so incredible sorry sir that I did miss this sir and did ask this stupid question sir...

...and have a look on a prototype picture - it's not upside down, it's another type of grab iron !
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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2008, 12:44:15 AM »
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Not to put a damper on this but aren't the grabs on the wrong side for the MILW H10-44?  I assumed it was a H12-44 and that's the picture I posted.


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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2008, 07:51:21 AM »
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yes, notice the sand fill access hatch - can't open it if a grab iron is in the way can ya?

oh my baron sir, I am so incredible sorry sir that I did miss this sir and did ask this stupid question sir...

...and have a look on a prototype picture - it's not upside down, it's another type of grab iron !

huh???

why the tude, dude? 

yes, the grab iron in reality is different, but i don't think it would be cost effective to tool up for that single grab iron.   since this is a macro photo, you'll never see it.  i don't think it detracts from the model at all.  then again, i have no idea what i'm talking about, i'm blind.

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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2008, 07:58:46 AM »
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Not to put a damper on this but aren't the grabs on the wrong side for the MILW H10-44?

you are correct.  wrong side.  that sucks.




but wait...  seems they picked the right number...

MILW 1825 became #783 per the roster here

http://www.trainweb.org/milwaukee/roster.txt



http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/modelthumbs.aspx?mid=262&Page=2

-Steve
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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2008, 08:14:04 AM »
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Curious. Speaking of those grabs, and in particular the "upside-down" ones... In many cases, the grab above the sand hatch is missing altogether. But in the case of the Friscos, the grab above the sand hatch is right-side-up, so evidently this did not interfere with its use. Sometimes the top-most grab is upside-down (really upside-down, not a specially-shaped grab). But if the top one is upside-down, it's the only one above the handrail; if there's two above the handrail, they're normal.

My head hurts...
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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2008, 08:19:57 AM »
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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2008, 08:23:05 AM »
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Not to put a damper on this but aren't the grabs on the wrong side for the MILW H10-44?

you are correct.  wrong side.  that sucks.


NO, NO, NO...it seems to be phase or rebuild change , because the older photos (in coach colors) I have in books show them on the other side as the newer photos (in orange/black).  So the model has them on the correct side. The one thing that NZ Steve pointed out correctly is that the upside down grab is actually different, whereas on the model, it is the same.

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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2008, 08:27:08 AM »
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NO, NO, NO...it seems to be phase or rebuild change , because the older photos (in coach colors) I have in books show them on the other side as the newer photos (in orange/black).  So the model has them on the correct side. The one thing that NZ Steve pointed out correctly is that the upside down grab is actually different, whereas on the model, it is the same.

look real close on the photo - it looks upside down!!!  my head asplode



so i guess we are trying to pick nits were no nits need picked?

-Steve
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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2008, 08:30:29 AM »
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Yes, on that one it looks upside down, like this one--



But here, it's a different shaped grab... except... both the one above and below the sand hatch are different!



Kaboom.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2008, 08:32:31 AM by David K. Smith »

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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2008, 08:36:40 AM »
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So, we're all good now.   ;D

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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2008, 08:46:28 AM »
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So, we're all good now.   ;D

damn, they got it right - wait, it's MILW and Walthers - they had damn well better get it right!

-Steve

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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2008, 08:47:45 AM »
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So, we're all good now.   ;D

damn, they got it right - wait, it's MILW and Walthers - they had damn well better get it right!

-Steve

Are you in HO now?  Tons of nice MILW stuff in HO these days.

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Re: Walthers H10-44 in Milwaukee
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2008, 08:53:30 AM »
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So, we're all good now.   ;D

Wait... where's the bell? (winking thingy here)