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3rdrail

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Why can't we get US models like this?
« on: June 29, 2007, 01:38:56 PM »
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Dapol has posted a photo of a test shot of its new SOUTHERN Q1 0-6-0 goods locomotive.


It has all wheel pickup, is DCC ready, and will pull 13 passenger cars. Why can't we get more decent small US or other North American steam power?

That's rascal's such an oddity it grows on you.  ;) ;D

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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2007, 01:53:32 PM »
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If our small steam was proportioned like a moose, we'd have more small steam models too.  The Dapol model has wide driver spacing, a big, boxy boiler, tall drivers, etc.  A USRA 0-6-0 with those proportions would look ridiculous.
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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2007, 03:39:48 PM »
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If you look at European manufacture, steam seemed to have the highest priority. Minitrix, Arnold, Roco in the seventies had at least 60 % of the production devoted to steam and the diesel and electro engines looked like toys at that time.

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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2007, 08:16:09 PM »
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Dapol has posted a photo of a test shot of its new SOUTHERN Q1 0-6-0 goods locomotive...
It's on my Xmas list - especially having ridden behind one on the Bluebell: http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/q1.html :)

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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2007, 08:42:23 PM »
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Is there a reason for no walkways on this type of locomotive?

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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2007, 08:51:44 PM »
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Is there a reason for no walkways on this type of locomotive?

It's like the FP45 of the steam world... heated internal walkways...  :o ::)
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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2007, 08:54:29 PM »
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Is there a reason for no walkways on this type of locomotive?
Yes: this was an austerity/WWII design...

From Wiki: the "minimum amount of raw materials" were used, with "all superfluous features stripped away".

The design "stressed pure functionality above any considerations of style or decoration. This explains their (to many) bizarre appearance. One aspect of their shape was that .. they could be simply driven through a coach-washer for cleaning at a time when manpower for this time-consuming chore could not be spared."

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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2007, 09:28:24 PM »
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Someone should put a little face on the front of that and ship it off to Sodor.


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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2007, 09:41:33 PM »
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Like this you mean:


Already available from Learning Curve, but not quite as detailed as the one from Dapol, & a little wide in the 'long hood' for N Scale too...

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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2007, 02:08:12 AM »
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  It looks like something from Altoona Shops. The firebox just gives it that Pennsylvania (Transelvania?) or great Northern Look. Nate Goodman 9Nato0. Salt Lake, Utah.

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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2007, 04:23:02 AM »
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I suppose if I were ever to do a steam era layout, it would be British.  Or maybe even Sodorish(?)...  just toooo funky. 8)

Actually, the odds are about as long as getting into Z. 

And I remember remembering ( ???) steam in action in my youth.  Just doesn't appeal. :-X

Bob in IDaho    stuck in 1980

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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2007, 01:10:46 PM »
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that's really cool, and the Dapol stuff I've seen runs like a Swiss watch. If I weren't such a fan of the road I'm modeling, there's a pretty good chance I'd be modeling the UK or Japan, just because there is so much great steam available.

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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2007, 04:57:36 PM »
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Oh the irony..here people say why can't our diesel models be like the American ones!

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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2007, 05:02:17 PM »
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Is that one of those weird Brit inside connector steamers?  Considering how beautiful some of their steam was/is, that damn thing if ugly (ogly)!!
Anyone ever been to the train museum in York, England.  Was there back in 1985 and considered it one of the best rain/train museums I've ever visited.
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Re: Why can't we get US models like this?
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2007, 07:50:54 AM »
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I grew up beside a British railway, first one of those Southern Q1s I saw I thought what an ugly beast it was, a far cry from the Britannia's, Coronation, Gresley Pacifics and King/Castle classes, give me American steam any day.

 
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