Whats wrong with the picture ..

[John]

In the advertising picture for the MICRO-TRAINS US NAVY Set #2, there are a number of errors .. can you find them?

[David Leonard]

I don't know enough about this offering to notice, but the ships in the photo may not be US Navy ships to begin with.  Other than that, I'd guess that none of the railroad models will turn out to be prototypical!

[sirenwerks]

"What's wrong with the picture .."

Well first, there's no picture. Second, you used double-periods for punctuation rather than a question mark. Am I right so far?

[TiVoPrince]

Bigger question is...
Where do you draw the line?  Exactly how wrong will they have to be for you to pass on them?  If even the fantasy releases are increasingly poorly researched and produced, will the collectors abandon MT too...

[tokenbrit]

Working on the understanding that you mean the black & white photo of 4 ships, the one thing that looks odd to me (aside from the perspective) is the aircraft carrier is 'wrong-handed' - all the ones I've ever seen have the tower on the other side...

[up1950s]

As an ex Navy guy that worked on aircraft it is easy for me to see that the island on the carrier is incorrectly put on the port side via the negative being flopped over . All carrier islands are on the carriers starboard ( right ) side .

EDIT ... Dang , Tokenbrit hit his enter key first .

[SirTainly]

All carrier islands are on the carriers starboard ( right ) side .

Not all..for bonus points name the carrier that had the island on the right and why. 

[up1950s]

All carrier islands are on the carriers starboard ( right ) side .

Not all..for bonus points name the carrier that had the island on the right and why. 

You mean left I guess ? Must have something to do with Australia .

[Nelson]

All carrier islands are on the carriers starboard ( right ) side .

Not all..for bonus points name the carrier that had the island on the right and why. 

Do Japanese count?
The Akagi:

[up1950s]

 
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Aircraft carrier islands are always on the starboard side.

There are several reasons. Initially the island was placed on the starboard side because early (propeller) aircraft turned to the left more easily (an effect of engine torque). Obviously such an aircraft can execute a wave-off to the left more easily, so the island was put to starboard to be out of the way. There may also be other, minor contributing factors.

Once the starboard side position was established and a few carriers were built in that configuration, it became difficult to change. Pilots used to landing with the island to their right would be confused on a ship with the island on the other side. There was nothing to be gained by moving the island, so it stayed in the same place. Once angled decks were introduced this became even more important, since the deck angle would have to be changed to move the island.

There were, however, two carriers with their islands to port. The Japanese Akagi and Hiryu were fitted with port-side islands. Each was meant to work in a tactical formation with a starboard-island ship (Kaga and Soryu respectively); it was thought that putting the islands opposite sides would improve the flight patterns around the carriers. The idea was scrapped after two ships were so fitted, and all later carriers had starboard islands.

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[TrainCat2]

Another Fantasy set to contend with ...

[SirTainly]

All carrier islands are on the carriers starboard ( right ) side .

Not all..for bonus points name the carrier that had the island on the right and why. 

You mean left I guess ? Must have something to do with Australia .

yep, sorry left...

[SirTainly]

All carrier islands are on the carriers starboard ( right ) side .

Not all..for bonus points name the carrier that had the island on the right and why. 

Do Japanese count?
The Akagi:

Correct, althouhg I have to admit I was thinking of the Hiryu

[SirTainly]

There were, however, two carriers with their islands to port. The Japanese Akagi and Hiryu were fitted with port-side islands. Each was meant to work in a tactical formation with a starboard-island ship (Kaga and Soryu respectively); it was thought that putting the islands opposite sides would improve the flight patterns around the carriers. The idea was scrapped after two ships were so fitted, and all later carriers had starboard islands.

Correct

[John]

Ok .. you guys got most of it right ..

The carrier appears to be a British carrier .. the island is on the wrong side. One of the ships is Brit Type 23 frigate, , another is a US Burke, and the one at the front I am unsure of ..