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3rdrail

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The June Challenge
« on: June 02, 2006, 09:21:14 PM »
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Since Ed will be off to the Land of The Bean and The Cod next week for training, he asked that I come up with a June Challenge. After looking over comments recently as to an appropriate pick, I've decided on one car type several requested and that is readily available in any guage - The ACF Centerflow covered hopper. Mr. Kluke mentioned cylindrical covered hoppers, and this is the most common type. Length does not matter, two bay, three bay, four bay, but try to match your car to a specific prototype car.

These are too modern for me, but I recall their installation into service on the PRR in the 1960's, so they've been around for a while and are still plentiful.

Have fun!!

Mile 1

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Re: The June Challenge
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2006, 09:19:47 AM »
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Just to clarify; are we doing ACF centerflow covered hoppers, cylindrical covered hoppers, or either one or the other?  The centerflows are quite a bit different from the true cylindrical hoppers manufactured by NSC, Hawker-Siddely, and Marine Industries, but either one would be a good challenge.

3rdrail

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Re: The June Challenge
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2006, 09:33:26 AM »
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If you read the sentence as a whole, I said that ACF Centerflows are the most common type of cylindrical hopper and available in all scales, therefore the challenge car will be the ACF Centerflow.

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Re: The June Challenge
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2006, 10:03:59 AM »
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A centreflow hopper isn't really a cylindrical hopper though, hence mile 1's confusion.

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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2006, 01:54:19 PM »
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3rdrail

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Re: The June Challenge
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2006, 02:35:54 PM »
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Jeff (Mr. KLUKE), shape means nothing in AAR classifications. You are correct that size is the most important, along with carrying capacity (weight). As far as covered hoppers, the only other items are the type of loading hatches and discharge gates, unless the car is lined for special use.

After all, the customer is interested in how much of his "stuff" it can haul, not what it looks like.

IIRC, last year's Centerflow was a specific car, this is any Centerflow, so hopefully we'll get more participation.

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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2006, 11:32:32 PM »
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Re: The June Challenge
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2006, 08:13:12 AM »
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The Intermountain cylindricals are also bang-on.  I was kind of hoping that the challenge would be one of these.  There are some pretty horrible looking Government of Canada grain cars creaking around out there.  I guess the ACF's are a lot more common though, especially in the USA.

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Re: The June Challenge
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2006, 06:42:09 AM »
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...the more confusion, the less participation - it's easy !

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The ACF Centerflow covered hopper. Mr. Kluke mentioned cylindrical covered hoppers, and this is the most common type.

do we have to do something like this...


or more like this...


...or both or none of them above ?

3rdrail

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Re: The June Challenge
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2006, 09:02:03 AM »
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...the more confusion, the less participation - it's easy !

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The ACF Centerflow covered hopper. Mr. Kluke mentioned cylindrical covered hoppers, and this is the most common type.

do we have to do something like this...


or more like this...


...or both or none of them above ?

Steve W., the CGLX car is not an ACF Centerflow. I should think that a design registered with the patent office by a particular carbuilder should not create any confusion.

Let's save the Canadian style grain or cylindrical hopper as built by National Steel Car, Hawker-Siddeley, and others for a future challenge.

nscalesteve

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Re: The June Challenge
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2006, 09:17:06 AM »
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Steve W., the CGLX car is not an ACF Centerflow.

Gregg, yes I know that but it is a cylindrical hopper and if I'm right (I could be also wrong, I know...) you did mention a cylindrical hopper as well in your first post...  :-*
(another month off for me then... ;))

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Re: The June Challenge
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2006, 10:40:44 PM »
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Re: The June Challenge
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2006, 05:34:08 PM »
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Hello here is my entry for this month, June - A   CB&Q 4600 Hopper
You can see the construction tread at http://modeltrainsweathered.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=964
The car was stripped undercoated painted sealed with Future and decaled.
Weathered with AIM powders and gouache. Brass wire was used to replicate
the brake pipes on both ends.
Prototype

The model I call her Sybil.........


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3rdrail

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Re: The June Challenge
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2006, 08:06:00 PM »
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Is daves going to be the winner by default? Where are the other entries. It is the first of July, guys and gals, let's have some more submissions by noon tomorrow! The only entry looks pretty damn good though.  :o

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