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Chris333

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #255 on: June 20, 2006, 07:25:59 AM »
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I really have no idea how hard the Kato chassis are to come by now a days, but found them on E-bay if needed:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Kato-N-gauge-Motorized-Chassis-NEW-Double-Truck-107_W0QQitemZ6066170762QQcategoryZ69812QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Edit:
Here too:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Powered-Motorized-Chassis-Kato-11-105_W0QQitemZ6065672749QQcategoryZ19124QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I have bought the Tomytec power chassis from this guy in the past, although they come from Japan they are reasonable and fast shipping.
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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #256 on: June 20, 2006, 10:12:28 AM »
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So here's the thing. If any one out there wants to make a mold out of my frames and keep on casting by all means feel free. The casting aren't award winners, but do with them as you wish. Spread the love :-* ;)

I've got my new pressure pot.. just waiting for a new batch of RTV, and I'll be on it  :)

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #257 on: June 20, 2006, 03:08:03 PM »
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DIEZMON, let me know when you're up and running, I'd like to get a coupla sets. Joe Hueber <lv4142003>

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #258 on: June 22, 2006, 08:00:10 AM »
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I really have no idea how hard the Kato chassis are to come by now a days, but found them on E-bay if needed:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Kato-N-gauge-Motorized-Chassis-NEW-Double-Truck-107_W0QQitemZ6066170762QQcategoryZ69812QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Edit:
Here too:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Powered-Motorized-Chassis-Kato-11-105_W0QQitemZ6065672749QQcategoryZ19124QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I have bought the Tomytec power chassis from this guy in the past, although they come from Japan they are reasonable and fast shipping.

So the 105 mech is the best to use?

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #259 on: June 22, 2006, 08:37:21 AM »
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I just purchased one from him. It will be interesting to see how long it takes from the UK to here.

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #260 on: June 22, 2006, 08:41:48 AM »
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I really have no idea how hard the Kato chassis are to come by now a days, but found them on E-bay if needed:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Kato-N-gauge-Motorized-Chassis-NEW-Double-Truck-107_W0QQitemZ6066170762QQcategoryZ69812QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Edit:
Here too:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Powered-Motorized-Chassis-Kato-11-105_W0QQitemZ6065672749QQcategoryZ19124QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I have bought the Tomytec power chassis from this guy in the past, although they come from Japan they are reasonable and fast shipping.

So the 105 mech is the best to use?

I think that the only difference between the 105 and the 107 is the colour of the trucks.

bsoplinger

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #261 on: June 22, 2006, 03:22:07 PM »
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The 105, 106 and 107 are all the same mechanism wise, each has different sideframes on the trucks as each is intended for a specific use, ie trolley, interurban, etc. They were made to add power to non-powered models available in Japan (and I don't believe made by Kato) hence the different variations. None of the sideframes are anywhere close to an American switcher so all need to get ground down and have replacement sideframes added.

The tomytech chassis mentioned was made specifically for the Tomy made shells and comes with 3 different style sideframes on a truck designed to have sideframes added, ie the sideframe isn't integral to the structural integrity of the truck. If they were shorter they'd be great to add power to many small switchers, but as they are, they're a bit too long to be useful and too short for most locos, unfortunately (they scale out to be 39' and 49' long [12 and 15 meters]). Just the right size for cheater boxcars though  :-\

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #262 on: June 22, 2006, 03:26:55 PM »
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The same guy is selling both lengths of the Tomytec chassis, but they are too big for a 44T.


Sent them out yesterday (Wednesday)  Phill

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #263 on: June 23, 2006, 04:18:56 AM »
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Just a point about the 11-107 / 11-105 sideframes on the trucks. The 11-107 sideframes are thicker and require more filing to get them narrowed. I know this cause I have used these and compared them with 11-105's.

The Tomytec mechs (yes I have 3 of these) are a lot Bigger than the kato. You would have to do a lot of surgery to squeeze one under the 44 tonner , also the trucks are too big (too long anyway).

Just some thoughts.

JASON

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #264 on: June 23, 2006, 04:46:12 AM »
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Ah I thought it refered to the mech length,I was prolly thinking of the Tomytec mech's,I knew one of the brands had diff lengths.Cheers guys.

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #265 on: June 23, 2006, 05:16:52 AM »
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he 11-107 sideframes are thicker and require more filing to get them narrowed.

I grind mine down with a heavy duty cut off wheel in a dremel tool:
http://www.dremel.com/en-us/attachments-and-accessories/attachment-accessory-detail.htm?H=188549&G=66367&I=66372
Soon as I start to see the holes for the axle points I stop. After I glue on the new frames if needed I dig out the axle dimples from the inside with one of these:
http://www.dremel.com/en-us/attachments-and-accessories/attachment-accessory-detail.htm?H=188537&G=66237&I=66273
When I do this I hold the bit with my fingers and twist, it's all thats needed. Even egging these out a little oversize is fine as they are just a place for the pickup cups to sit in.

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #266 on: June 23, 2006, 05:31:28 AM »
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Sent them out yesterday (Wednesday)  Phill

Thanks Chris, much appreciated.

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #267 on: June 28, 2006, 07:05:08 PM »
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105 Back in stock at N scale supply:
http://www.nscalesupply.com/KAT/KAT-b-trains.html

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #268 on: June 28, 2006, 11:04:08 PM »
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Hey Chris,

The side frames have arrived. Thanks mate.

JASON

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Re: 44 Tonner
« Reply #269 on: June 29, 2006, 05:32:21 AM »
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Hey Chris,

The side frames have arrived. Thanks mate.

Same here,thanks very much Chris your a champ!