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BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« on: January 10, 2026, 07:02:09 PM »
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This doesn't really count as a complex sound conversion, as this is basically just a drop-in LokSound Nano NEXT18 install, but I thought it might be useful to document and share.


The latest runs of the Broadway Limited Imports' SW7 and NW2 switchers are available in a Stealth version that has a standard NEXT18 connector on the main circuit board. This makes an ESU LokSound install very straightforward — all you need is the LokSound Nano NEXT 18 decoder (58928). This avoids the need to pay for BLI's terrible Paragon 4 sound decoders, which I'm not a fan of for a variety of reasons (primarily lack of reliability).


Removing the shell requires removing two screws on the underside either side of the front truck, and one screw under the cab. You also need to carefully pry out the ends of the cab handrails that terminate on the frame sides next to the cab step wells. These are metal, and so fairly strong and can be rotated out of the way of the chassis. You can then lift the die cast hood and plastic cab away from the chassis.

There is a small daughterboard PCB in the cab roof that can be carefully unclipped using a flat head screwdriver.

The chassis is very well designed and has a coreless motor, flywheel/worms, and wired connections to the trucks with JST connectors. The main board PCB is documented by BLI and they are to be commended for this and the fact that the GND and U+ pins on the NEXT18 connector are terminated.

There is plenty of space under the long hood for a TCS KA-N1 Keep alive. There is a GND pad available on the underside of the light board (labelled L3-). This terminates the black wire on the TCS KA-N1…




There is a convenient U+ connection on the cab light J1 daughterboard (red wire pad), and this terminates the blue wire on the TCS KA-N1…




I took the S0560 Project from ESU and loaded this via my LokProgrammer. The coreless motor requires some tuning of the BEMF settings as follows:

Regulation Reference Voltage [CV53] = 120

K [CV54]  =  15
I [CV55]  = 120

K slow [CV52]  =  6
K slow cutoff [CV51]  =  30
K influence at slow speed [CV56]  =  255

Slow speed BEMF sampling period [CV116]  = 30
Full speed BEMF sampling period [CV117]  = 50

Slow speed BEMF measuring gap [CV118]  = 40
Full speed BEMF measuring gap[CV1169  = 40

I set the full speed [CV5] to 46 to limit the maximum speed to 30 mph


With these settings the loco performs extremely well with perfect slow speed control and has a very quiet drive train.

Unlike the Kato NW2, BLI have used a die cast metal shell which greatly enhances pulling power. On flat track, this diminutive SW7 can pull 24 heavy sixty foot boxcars with ease. It can also walk 8 sixty foot boxcars up my 2.3% grades.

As a digression, I have wasted a significant number of hours attempting to fix Kato NW2s for my fellow N scalers. Even without DCC or sound, these have very limited pulling power, and suffer from a design issue with a slipping gear on metal shaft that cannot be fixed (replacement parts fail in exactly the same way after any significant use).


So for me, this BLI SW7 is a game changer. I can finally realistically switch decent cuts of cars, and enjoy ESU's excellent motor control, and have sound with a keep alive.

I chopped the master sound volume down to 20%, and the prime mover slot to 40% within that. This yields lovely quiet undistorted burble of EMD 567 goodness. I think most people have an unrealistic idea of how loud sound-equipped locos need to be. I find a more scale sized sound that blends into the overall layout to work best. With my ProtoThrottle and a ton of momentum, pottering up and down some industrial trackage becomes very satisfying and brings a smile to my face.

I would thoroughly recommend these locos when equipped with an ESU Nano decoder. It is amazing what is possible in N scale these days.

Cheers
« Last Edit: February 13, 2026, 04:47:33 AM by kiwi_bnsf »
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Re: BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2026, 12:04:40 AM »
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Nice.  Any chance a loksound v5 micro next18 would fit, or only a loksound v5 nano next18?
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Re: BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2026, 11:39:04 AM »
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Yes, it isnice to see that BLI thoughtfully provided a ground pad on the adapter board. Somethgin not often done by manufacturers.

As for decoder sizes:
LokSound V4.0 micro Next18:  10.5 x 8.1 2.8 mm
https://www.esu.eu/en/products/former-products/lokpilot-micro-v40/

LokSound 5 nano Next 18:  15.0 x 9.5 x 3.5 mm
https://www.esu.eu/en/products/loksound/loksound-5-nano-dcc/

Seems like the V4.0 decoder is smaller than LokSound 5, (per info from the ESU site), so It should work in this installation.
 




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Re: BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2026, 02:14:41 PM »
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Nice.  Any chance a loksound v5 micro next18 would fit, or only a loksound v5 nano next18?

Only the 58928 Nano version of the LokSound V5 will fit. The 58828 V5 Micro is too wide (at 11mm), whereas the Nano is only 9.5mm wide.

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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2026, 02:40:15 PM »
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I misread the question. I though it was inquiring whether a V4.0 Next18 would fit in this model.  :facepalm:

 
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Re: BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2026, 02:47:26 PM »
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Nice work Tim, I think this is what I should add to my NW2's.

The TCS TA-N1 Keep Alive has a maximum voltage of 16Volts.  What is your track voltage??  Thanks --Brian

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Re: BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2026, 11:52:50 PM »
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Nice work Tim, I think this is what I should add to my NW2's.

The TCS TA-N1 Keep Alive has a maximum voltage of 16Volts.  What is your track voltage??  Thanks --Brian

I use a TCS CS-105 Command Station with their 12V switch mode power supply.

ESU LokSound V5 decoders typically subtract around 1.4-1.7 Volts from track power for the rectified DC on U+

I have never had any issues with the TCS KA-N1s for my setup. A modern switch mode power supply shouldn't deliver any voltage spikes. I also use DCC Specialties PSX-1 circuit breakers.
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Re: BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2026, 01:25:29 PM »
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Thanks for the reply.

I have an ESU ECoS and my Track Voltage is 14.5 V as measure with an RRAmpMeter.  My scope measures 15 Volts peak, there are zero spikes.

TCS in their documentation for the KA-N1 besides saying the track voltage should not exceed 16 volts, also says there is a recommended 10 Volt limit on the internal DCC Decoder voltage.

The ECoS switching power supply voltage is set with a potentiometer, Soooo I think I just might want to bring my track voltage down just a wee bit. --Brian

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Re: BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2026, 01:47:54 PM »
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Since you will be connecting the KA unit to the decoder, you should be able to easily measure the internal decoder's voltage to  verify whether the DCC track voltage needs to be turned down or not.
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Re: BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2026, 03:13:32 PM »
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TCS in their documentation for the KA-N1 besides saying the track voltage should not exceed 16 volts, also says there is a recommended 10 Volt limit on the internal DCC Decoder voltage.

10V is simply the maximum that the TCS KA-N1 can output to the decoder. It's not a limit on the specification of decoder you can use. It just means that you won't quite match the full voltage of rectified track power during an interruption to input power.

These smaller Keep Alives can only bridge very small interruptions to input power anyway, but in practice this is enough to make a night-and-day difference to the performance and reliability of 4 axle power equipped with sound.
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Re: BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2026, 04:51:12 PM »
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Thats good to know.  My NW2's typically run round 10 MPH, maybe up to 15 MPH and unfortunately every so often stall out.

So I have a few TCS KA-N1's on order and I tink & hope this fixes them.

I already dropped my voltage down to 12 volts and everything is working just fine.  I also checked my speed matching and nothing changed.

Thank you for all your posts Tim. --Brian

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Re: BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2026, 06:12:32 PM »
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I added the TCS KA-N1 two of my Broadway Limited Stealth NW2's a few days ago, followed by hours spent switching at slow speeds, over a few days.......

It worked, they run perfectly now.  The random stops have ended.  Thank you very much Tim, all the best. --Brian

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Re: BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2026, 07:27:07 PM »
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I recently picked up a couple of NW2's as well, but I installed the SoundTraxx TSU-N18 versions in mine.
They stalled quite a bit and a friend suggested using the TCS KA-N1's.

I had to get a printout from SoundTraxx for their newer chips to see where I could connect the KA's.
They connected right on the SoundTraxx chip.

Once installed, they ran extremely well.
I'll still get a stall every once in awhile if I'm creeping the loco, but nothing like before the KA was installed.

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Re: BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2026, 02:29:03 PM »
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I recently picked up a couple of NW2's as well, but I installed the SoundTraxx TSU-N18 versions in mine.
They stalled quite a bit and a friend suggested using the TCS KA-N1's.

I had to get a printout from SoundTraxx for their newer chips to see where I could connect the KA's.
They connected right on the SoundTraxx chip.

Once installed, they ran extremely well.
I'll still get a stall every once in awhile if I'm creeping the loco, but nothing like before the KA was installed.

Could you show where you made the connections?


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Re: BLI N scale SW7 LokSound install with Keep Alive
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2026, 07:37:26 PM »
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Could you show where you made the connections?


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