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John

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Linux Wine
« on: December 02, 2025, 12:39:37 PM »
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No, not that wine ..   If you are running Linux on your machine, Wine is a compatibility layer that allows the installation of Windows programs.   With the recent effort by M$ to make all my home computers obsolete, As a now retired computer security geek, I'm also annoyed by the constant telemetry that they collect on everything I do .. As such, I've been slowly migrating my daily driver and layout computers to Linux and testing out various software I need for running the layout.  So far, I've installed:

AnyRail 7.13 and placed some track on the screen .. It did lock up when I tried to access user object libraries, but I need to investigate it more.. It does seem promising .

SoundLoader v4.0 and Utilities installed and created the various components.  Needs testing.

LoconetChecker by Stephan Trachsler is available again - Have not tested ..  https://digi100.synology.me/

If anyone can contribute to the effort, please add to the thread ..  Please no Linux vs Windows vs Mac religious discussions.
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Re: Linux Wine
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2025, 02:11:19 PM »
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That's interesting you were able to get AnyRail running under Linux. I need to pursue that approach. I currently run it under BootCamp on my main Mac, but that is so old it's Win7. It works, and it works with my 25-year-old HP 11x17 laser printer. So as long as I get functionality out of the combo, I'm golden on layout design. Heaven help me when the hardware gives-up the ghost.

I really do enjoy running JMRI under RaspPi OS on a Raspberry Pi 5. Smooth experience, and even better once I got the dual touchscreens to work with it. Just amazing.

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... With the recent effort by M$ to make all my home computers obsolete, ...

Interesting. Didn't realize MS had finally jumped onto Apple's way of doing business. I fear every OS upgrade, even incremental "minor" security updates... what software, or hardware, is going to break this time? Useful life of Apple hardware, if you update with each major OS release, is about five years. Don't update, then you can't run recent releases of apps you have but no choice to use, like tax software. Alternative is using the web-based equivalent. Nuh uh - next paragraph.

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...constant telemetry that they collect on everything I do...

Somehow that has become OK, everywhere, regardless of product. Does MS do the same in the Eurozone, with their data privacy laws? (We in the US have none! 'Cept California, maybe.) I just bought a pre-owned SUV of a specific year, the last year of the model that hadn't forced telematics down your throat. At least the laundry pair we bought last year are operable without enabling their WiFi connection. Our otherwise nice treadmill is severely limited in features because I won't let it log into our network, and nags us about it every time we use it. It has a camera and microphone, not controlled by me. Uh, right. Tape over both.

Anyway, does Wine run on 64-bit ARM flavors of Linux? Is it a compatibility layer, or a full x86-type emulator? I've been migrating everything I can to Linux, mostly on Raspberry Pi 5, both 5s and 500s. I guess I should go ask in the Rasp Pi forum about Wine.

My biggest reservation about Linux is productivity apps, second biggest is support. App UIs are all over the place as there is no "standard" way of doing things, every developer for themselves. What might be a simple right-click submenu on Mac or Win can be a left-click dropdown, then right click, open another window, and pat your head and rub your tummy for a basic function like changing a font in a word processor. Scribus is that way.

My experience with "volunteer" support in the Linux world is nothing less than infuriating. Ask about a "how to...?", get a demeaning lecture about "you should know this" with no useful answer, or "what you want to do works better with [this obscure app]" that has a dozen dependencies. Clutter. Lots of clutter.

Yeah, old man rant, but an old man in the trade. 20 years ago we were talking about, "What's the profitability model now that the software is at 99% of daily needs?" Now we know - planned obsolescence, leaseware, and snooping. It was better 20 years ago, don't tell me about all your specious "new" features - especially AI these days - that do little more than get in your way and worse, send you down rabbit holes.

So there's my whine on Wine. Where's my cane? (As he scurries off to check on Wine under Ubuntu on a three-generations-ago Mac mini.)

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Re: Linux Wine
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2025, 02:18:47 PM »
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Didn't take much looking! Apparently there is indeed an x86 Wine that runs on a Rasp Pi. I'll look into that tomorrow; have commitments the rest of the day.
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Re: Linux Wine
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2025, 07:28:30 AM »
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ESU's LokProgrammer SOFTWARE runs under WINE - well, the macOS version called CrossOver at least. I assume it would run under WINE as well.  The one caveat is that it can't talk on USB to the LokProgrammer hardware.  Yeah. Ugh.  I worked on that for quite a while a few years ago before giving up.  I haven't tried since around 2018 but from what I see it hasn't gotten better.
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Re: Linux Wine
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2025, 08:07:06 PM »
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You could in theory just run a Virtual Machine on your Linux or mac if you still want to use some features or have compatibility issues with either OS.
You can do that fairly easily, with a few programs out there like Virtualbox, Oracle Virtual Machine (I use this,) VMware etc.
You'll want to make sure it the persistent type as it will save anything that you are working on or using, so that means creating a Partition on your hard drive or using a completely different drive so you don't use valuable space.

As far as using Linux to run windows based programs, Mint maybe the better option as far as Distros go, it also still has a Windows feel to it for users who don't want to give up on the ease of Windows.


   

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Re: Linux Wine
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2025, 04:07:29 PM »
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Surprised that you guys (who seem to know much more than me) let your computers update.

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Re: Linux Wine
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2025, 05:15:55 PM »
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You could in theory just run a Virtual Machine on your Linux or mac if you still want to use some features or have compatibility issues with either OS.


Some of the older hardware I have runs Linux mint fairly well as the host OS, but doesn’t support virtualization. 

You can do that fairly easily, with a few programs out there like Virtualbox, Oracle Virtual Machine (I use this,) VMware etc.
You'll want to make sure it the persistent type as it will save anything that you are working on or using, so that means creating a Partition on your hard drive or using a completely different drive so you don't use valuable space.

As far as using Linux to run windows based programs, Mint maybe the better option as far as Distros go, it also still has a Windows feel to it for users who don't want to give up on the ease of Windows.

I use mint, but Zorin is coming on strog