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Wilmington & Western Operations Paused Indefinitely
« on: February 24, 2025, 06:13:21 PM »
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Trains.com reported today that the W&W indefinitely has paused its operations:

“Volunteers on the Wilmington & Western Railway say railroad staff have notified them that operations on the long-time heritage railway are paused indefinitely.

Volunteers seeking information about the railway’s March schedule were notified of the decision in an email earlier this month. The railway depends on its all-volunteer crew to staff trains.

The Feb. 12 email from the W&W volunteer programs manager tells volunteers all operations are to be paused for an indefinite period, including the release of train schedules and the marketing of trains, until permitted by the board of directors. No other information was included in the email.

As of today (Feb. 24, 2025) the calendar on the railway’s website currently shows no scheduled trips beyond a series of “Art Festival Express” excursions held Feb. 22-23. The website says it is ‘still finalizing’ its schedule.”


If I knew those runs this past weekend might be the last, I would have been sure to go ride.  As a member of the W&W, this came as a complete surprise.  I have no idea what is going on.  😢

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Re: Wilmington & Western Operations Paused Indefinitely
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2025, 06:44:40 PM »
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The general word on FB is that the people in charge didn't use money for upkeep. The safety inspector came by and shut them down.


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Re: Wilmington & Western Operations Paused Indefinitely
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2025, 06:52:33 PM »
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The general word on FB is that the people in charge didn't use money for upkeep. The safety inspector came by and shut them down.

Oh, dear!

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Re: Wilmington & Western Operations Paused Indefinitely
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2025, 07:08:51 PM »
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You can see how many posts were deleted already...

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Ken Houser
Not at all. Their BOD is a bunch of know-nothings who have pissed away the monies the Railroad's former long time director left them in the coffers. They pushed their most recent, and very competent CMO, pushed out previous folks, both paid and volunteer due to biased reasons. They routinely canceled trains last year simply if pre-sales of tickets didnt live up to expectations. Their ridership for the year, through November of 2024, was barely 18,000 people. The BOD has also strained any and all relationships established over the decades with the State and various local Governement agencies that USED to be on the Railroad's side. It's a sad situation for an operation and many, incluing myself and my family, who gave decades to the railroad are beyond pissed.
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Rich Seymoar
Ken Houser Oh no, you're gonna get reported for speaking the truth! lol Some peoples kids....
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Joe Smith
Ken Houser if you think he was competent, I'd hate to see your definition of incompetent....
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Tommy Tomson
Joe Smith look at the mess he stepped in to and then ask yourself that question.
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Ken Houser
Tommy Tomson exactly
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Joe Smith
Tommy Tomsonyou should hire him then. Nobody is questioning the mess that was there previously.
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Steve Leatherman
Tommy Tomson well said, thank you
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Diana ok - so then what's the real story going on here? Can you share?
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Diana Goble North I doubt any of us know what a Glow up is. Please explain?
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Diana Goble North You need to prove this, because there's so much speculation about the FRA coming in and turning the place upside down
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Jackson Sharpe
Ken HouserKen Houser, there is so much truth here. Too bad they’d rather have it this way. I hope the last mechanic realizes the bullet he dodged by getting the hell out of there.
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Allen West
Ken Houser This comment is true! The board has made poor decisions for years, especially surrounding the recent CMO feud. A lot of volunteers have been upset with their decision making and would like to see changes, but there are no elections at Historic Red Clay Valley, INC. They work silently in the background, and a significant majority are not, and never have been, involved in day-to-day operations. The frustrations seem to grow every 4 or 5 years and then there is a mass exodus of volunteers. Go to Woodstown Central and you'll see the same faces you saw at the W&W a year ago. The railroad truly does need a "glow-up" with a new board!
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Sou Railman
Ken Houser So another case of upper management ruining the fun for everyone else?
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Bob Harbison
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OK everyone take a deep breath and calm down. Let's wait and see what develops. I'm sure we'll know the story soon enough. (or most of it, there's always some behind the scenes stuff).
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Diana Goble North
Bob Harbison I left this group because of all the unkind posts. The WWRR has a right to take a pause and inspect/repair historical equipment. It’s a responsible action. Thank you for your post and your kindness. We are not going anywhere but forward! Stay tuned. 💙💛
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Jackson Sharpe
Diana Goble North, what changed since last year when the previous mechanic was jumping up and down pointing out safety issues? What about the things he reported to the board that were disregarded? Obviously something happened.
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Diana Goble North
Jackson Sharpe wait?? Josh??
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Jackson Sharpe
Diana Goble North, met him a couple times but seem he just stopped posting stuff. This is stuff said that been circulating online for months tho.
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Diana Goble North
Jackson Sharpe I was told you are Josh. Apologies
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Allen West
Bob Harbison The strong wording from people on here is a direct result from actions of the board and other individuals of power at the railroad. When people put countless hours of volunteer time to improve things and that is met with hostility, people will tend to be "unkind."
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Kevin Madore
That's extremely sad.
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Jackson Sharpe
Kevin Madore, they have done it to themselves.
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Diana Goble North
Jackson Sharpe wait? Is this Josh??
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John Leofer
I heard a safety inspector came out and shut the railroad down.
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Andy Wrobel
Dang, I was actually planning on going here
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Don Roberts
Well look at that, Diane Goble North blocked me. I guess she didn't like the truth coming out? Hiding something? Something really smells rotten here
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Chris Hanby
Time for new management
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Don Roberts
If memory serves me right, I believe they had a lot of large doners to the organization. I gotta imagine this kind of news is not going to make them happy!
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Greg Johnston
Who stole the money, or mis used it!?
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Sara Ironhorse Kammeraad
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What's happened?
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John Leofer
It appears Diane Goble North blocked me. I wonder what they are trying to hide?
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Sean Bowen
What the heck?
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Jackson Sharpe
Nah not at all, if you followed the story and paid attention the CMO is a pencil whipper. been known for years. Key terms of worn out engines are “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.” Seems last year they were doing ok but some body else will probably get blamed for it. What ever happened to the ALCO deal?
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Bob Harbison
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I don't follow the operation at all, but they've been around a very long time and always seemed first class. No idea what is going on.
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Kevin Madore
Bob Harbison They have the only 4-4-0 that still operates with any regularity. It's been slowly undergoing a 1,472 SDI and a lot of us were looking forward to its return. They also have one of the prettier trainsets in the tourist industry.
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Tommy Tomson
Kevin Madore it no longer operates
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Nate Heffner
Kevin Madore also far from the only regular operating 4-4-0, considering it has not run in years. PRR 331/ leviathan runs regularly about 50 days or more a year and DL&N 7 at greenfield village is in regular service.
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Tommy Tomson It hasn't been in operation for a number of years because its Form 4 had expired, but at least until recently, the plan had been to return it to service. Like a number of other tourist railroads that own a pair of steam locomotives, the Wilmington & Western has typically run one for 15 years, while their crew works through the process of getting the boiler inspection done on the other.
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Kevin Madore
Nate Heffner Correct. I was referring to original locos from the steam era. There are a number of replicas. The Detroit & Lima Northern #7 is original. It was restored a few years back, but was then out of service for a while. There are others, but they operate only rarely.
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Dave Cruikshank
So sorry to hear this. My grandson and I love riding and capturing trains on video & photographs. He wanted to go somewhere he hasn’t been and they were on my short list. I road it with my wife and his mom back in the early 90’s when we lived in Kennett Sq. I hope they can straighten this out.
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Diana Goble North
Dave Cruikshank come see us this fall!! No worries
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Dave Cruikshank
Diana Goble North Will you have steam running at any time then?
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Diana Goble North
Dave Cruikshank we have some steam loving good people, so say a pray for 98. She needs it.
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Otto Vondrak
Diana Goble North do you represent the railroad? We've been trying to get comments for our news story. Please email me otto@RailFan.com
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Diana Goble North
Otto Vondrak I am! I will get the BOD President to email you. I’m so sorry. Thanks for letting me know.
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Tommy Tomson
Dave Cruikshank try woodstown central. About 30 mins away in New Jersey.
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Diana Goble North
Thank you to all the gentleman posting! IYKYK! 💙 🚂 💛
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George Slater
What the hell happened?
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Allen West
If you want any evidence of the board being corrupt check out their website. Diane Goble North's (who is a board director) husband is an officer, who is a superintendent for the company that the President owns. Does that not raise an eyebrow? No wonder she blocked everyone on here. https://www.wwrr.com/about/hrcv/board.aspx
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