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Brass Car Sides
« on: May 03, 2023, 08:50:43 PM »
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Anyone know what car these etched brass baggage car sides are for?
Tried uploading photo here but I see it in the Gallery when I searched "Brass Car Side"
Anyway to hook photo to post?
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=33550
« Last Edit: May 04, 2023, 09:16:50 AM by rail_nut »

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Re: Brass Car Sides
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2023, 09:02:28 PM »
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Anyone know what car these etched brass baggage car sides are for?
Tried uploading photo here but I see it in the Gallery when I searched "Brass Car Side"
Anyway to hook photo to post?

If you successfully uploaded it to the Gallery then go to that photo then copy the BB Code under the photo,  edit your original post and paste the code into the post.

For full explanation of the process see https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=42854.0
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Re: Brass Car Sides
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2023, 09:17:50 PM »
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These?
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Re: Brass Car Sides
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2023, 05:58:05 AM »
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Yes, that's the photo.
Peteski, Have been successfully uploading in the past. Never had it go to the gallery before.

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Re: Brass Car Sides
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2023, 08:38:24 AM »
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JnJ?
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Re: Brass Car Sides
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2023, 09:23:21 AM »
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JnJ?
I do agree that it's an early JnJ offering (later brass car sides from JnJ were much improved), but I've never been able to match it to a likely prototype.
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Re: Brass Car Sides
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2023, 10:25:12 AM »
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Is it exactly the length of a Con Cor car?  If it is, it's probably stretched to fit the car.  It kind of looks like a Santa Fe car, except Santa Fe cars didn't have the skirting, and it's about ten feet shorter. 
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Re: Brass Car Sides
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2023, 10:29:18 AM »
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I do agree that it's an early JnJ offering (later brass car sides from JnJ were much improved), but I've never been able to match it to a likely prototype.
I agree with the conventional wisdom here- early JnJ- or maybe a line that existed before JnJ that became part of their catalog early on.

As far as I know, they are not based on a specific prototype, but rather a "generic" set.  I have an early fluted combine, that is from the same time period of production, or just a bit later.  The early JnJ streamline sides were usually made to fit Con-Cor smoothside cars, and measure approximately 6 1/8 inches. (Oddly, it was doing that car that I discovered that Con-cor's cars were actually 1/8" longer than I thought they were). Some  Doing a quick zoom out on my screen to get the photo into an approximation of N scale and comparing my car to the photo, it appears to be the same proportions as my car, but that is hardly scientific. The biggest error in the early JnJ sides is that the skirts are too deep. This is caused (apparently) by adapting a side that is a bit too tall (measures about .025 taller than an M&R scale side) to a Con-cor car with a side that is not tall enough (measuring about .030 less than the same M&R sides) - so they chopped a bit more out of the skirting to get closer to the fit on the Con-cor, but it makes the disproportion rather apparent. The simplest solution might be to cut the skirts off all together.  This would yield a car with a resemblance to many of the baggage cars built skirt-less in the mid 1950s. Alternately, if the skirts were reduced by something on the order of .050" would make for a better proportioned car, and a reasonable generic stand in for many streamlined baggage cars.


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Re: Brass Car Sides
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2023, 02:33:19 PM »
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Yes, that's the photo.
Peteski, Have been successfully uploading in the past. Never had it go to the gallery before.

The photo Tom liked to resides in the gallery (not as an attachment to a post).  The thread I pointed you to shows how to upload photos to the gallery directly while you are composing a message (and also the other way, where you upload the photos directly to the gallery, then link to them in your message). 

If whatever you remember doing in the past is not working now, maybe start a new thread in the Admin section about the problem you're having and the exact procedure you are using, along with where it breaks.
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Re: Brass Car Sides
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2023, 02:38:11 PM »
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The photo Tom liked to resides in the gallery (not as an attachment to a post).  The thread I pointed you to shows how to upload photos to the gallery directly while you are composing a message (and also the other way, where you upload the photos directly to the gallery, then link to them in your message). 

If whatever you remember doing in the past is not working now, maybe start a new thread in the Admin section about the problem you're having and the exact procedure you are using, along with where it breaks.
The photo I linked to was under the OP's screenname in the gallery section, so it appears he was successful in uploading it, just not in getting it into his post. 
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Re: Brass Car Sides
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2023, 02:53:40 PM »
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The photo I linked to was under the OP's screenname in the gallery section, so it appears he was successful in uploading it, just not in getting it into his post.
That's why I suggested starting a thread about the problem, in the Admin forum.
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Re: Brass Car Sides
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2023, 07:01:30 AM »
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Thanks to all for your help and ideas. Car sides were attached by rubber bands to an Atlas lighted sleeper. Came across these while sorting through my 50+ years of N stuff.

Considering photo uploading and Peteski's comment about starting new thread. I am reviewing the info in your link which has lots of info. I think I may have created the problem. The first time I tried the file was just over the 500. I reduced file size but kept same name. Never having the problem before, maybe could have something to do with that.