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Bart1701

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How to establish value of a layout for insurance?
« on: June 23, 2019, 12:27:01 PM »
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I just switched insurance companies and asked about insuring my train layout (It is a finished layout in a U-Shape that is about 7 x 10 feet.) The agent talked with Underwriting and they said that an official appraisal was not needed and that I could come up with a value for the layout. If any single piece was worth over $1,000, I'd have to have that specifically noted and scheduled on the policy (Luckily no single piece is even close to that amount!)

I figured I would do a precise inventory of locomotives (and decoders), and then a somewhat simple inventory of rolling stock, structures, and automobiles.  I'd also have my DCC equipment listed. As far as the benchwork and scenery, not sure how (or if) you would account for that.

I've been a N-Gauge railroader from the 1970's and do not have receipts for the stuff I have purchased through the years. How would you suggest to establish values? They said not to use Ebay for valuations. Using a representative average cost (locomotives somewhere between $70 -100, decoders around $30-40, passenger cars around $20)? If the layout were ever destroyed, I know I could never replace it piece-for-piece with exact matches; I'd just want to get some money to be able to start over again with whatever is available at that time.

I'd appreciate ideas and suggestions, and any experiences you can share.

Thanks,
Bart

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Re: How to establish value of a layout for insurance?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2019, 04:13:33 PM »
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I've been told to just make sure you have pictures of layout and rolling stock since it will presumably be burned or blown away by a tornado or hurricane.

If you line up the rolling stock and take a pic, then its not really a rush to get the estimated valuations.

Do you have a full replacement type plan?  If not, I have always valued stuff at 50% of original retail, if I have the boxes, to account for depreciation.  Locos may be worth that (not as much any more, with new ones being so much better) and its hard to sell old rolling stock, period, and never more than $10.  Your initial estimates aren't bad, but IMHO, higher than true value on the open market.

As to the layout itself, you can either measure all the track and count and get original (or current) price of structures.  I don't think the scenery counts as much, and it is cheap.  Or (and these are old numbers) professional layout builders charge $500-600 per SF for total work, about half for plywood and track and wiring stage of completion.  Taking a percentage of that, again probably 50%, might be acceptable as to the cost of doing it yourself.

Or do it multiple ways and average.

Lastly, you may want to consider if a disaster or a divorce is more likely......for the latter, you want it all valued as low as possible, presuming you take it as part of your half of the belongings.

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Re: How to establish value of a layout for insurance?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2019, 05:02:26 PM »
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Thanks for the advice!

I have a Replacement Cost policy (as opposed to Actual Cash Value).

I was only going to assess my "newer" equipment that is of better quality (starting with my Kato/Atlas engines and Kato passenger cars from about the late 80's). Most of the equipment I have that is older than that is either not well detailed or runs poorly; I don't see any reason to include that stuff since it isn't used.

I'll be valuing this assuming a disaster. The divorce happened 17 years ago and all of the railroad stuff came with me (not part of any settlement/valuation).

Thanks,
Bart

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Re: How to establish value of a layout for insurance?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2019, 06:18:45 PM »
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My old insurance agent (she moved on to a better job elsewhere- now have a kid who doesn't follow up on questions- need new agency) recommended that I make a DVD of photos, along with a spreadsheet, and tuck that away with the deeds and wills and important papers in a safe deposit box at the bank.  The same tornado or house fire that destroys a layout will probably also destroy the home computer and any picture books in the den.

I suspect the tough part will be valuing the things you scratchbuilt or kitbashed.  They never want to pay for the 8 hours of intermittent cussing and grumbling and drinking coffee that go into it or even the 4 hours of actual construction and painting time.
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Re: How to establish value of a layout for insurance?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2019, 07:37:32 PM »
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not sure how helpful this will be
but i often check with
https://trovestar.com/
whewn selling on eBay to get a
rounded figure of what they are
and have been selling at.
sincerely
Gary
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