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N scale factory/industrial window guards?
« on: October 03, 2017, 06:58:50 PM »
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I know I saw a manufacturer a number of years ago who was making photo-etched industrial window screens in N scale. Anyone remember who it was?

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, see below reference photo, to the left of the switcher:
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Re: N scale factory/industrial window guards?
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2017, 10:02:38 PM »
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Maybe 100 mesh , maybe not . but this place has many . https://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/stainlessmesh.php


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Re: N scale factory/industrial window guards?
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2017, 01:59:01 AM »
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Re: N scale factory/industrial window guards?
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2017, 09:58:59 AM »
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Re: N scale factory/industrial window guards?
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2017, 08:02:24 PM »
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Someone was actually making them with the protruding part that allowed the windows to swing open. But I was a broke-a$$ college student at the time and couldn't afford any.
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Re: N scale factory/industrial window guards?
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2017, 07:19:20 AM »
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Maybe 100 mesh , maybe not . but this place has many . https://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/stainlessmesh.php

Ummm, stainless steel is hard to work with, especially as small pieces. I found brass wire mesh is excellent: easy to cut, easy to shape, and better at keeping the desired shape. An added feature is when oxidized it looks like rusted steel.  I got mine as scrap while working at a testing lab but they do sell it:

https://www.twpinc.com/wire-mesh-material/brass/100-mesh-brass-0045

For $5 you get 3 sq ft, which can cover a lot of windows. This is just one place I grabbed off the list for "brass mesh screen". There probably are other suppliers. I forgot what mesh size the piece I have is (I think it was 400) but the mesh is so tiny you can barely see see the individual openings. I'd say the openings are one scale N inch or even smaller. Probably too small for your intended use, but other sizes are available.

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Re: N scale factory/industrial window guards?
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2017, 08:16:38 AM »
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The 100 mesh calculates to 0.88" openings at 1:1.  Question is the frame. that would be thin material in N and quite skinny looks about 1.5" wide (`010") in N.  Hand cut aluminum foil strips?

Looks like there are tops (fold), and curved sides,  :scared: to cut?

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Re: N scale factory/industrial window guards?
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2017, 08:57:49 AM »
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As an alternative to wire mesh, try tulle fabric (a.k.a. wedding veil fabric), available at places like Michael's and Joanne's. Look for matte light grey. Much easier to work with, more scale in appearance, and can be easily "rusted" with brown Sharpies.

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Re: N scale factory/industrial window guards?
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2017, 09:34:32 AM »
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Someone was actually making them with the protruding part that allowed the windows to swing open. But I was a broke-a$$ college student at the time and couldn't afford any.

That jogged my memory. Are you thinking of Ngineering?
http://www.ngineering.com/industrial.htm


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Re: N scale factory/industrial window guards?
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2017, 01:03:03 PM »
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Considering the frames of those windows are basically curved 90 degree angles, my perspective would be the best way to approach these is a Shapeways frame that fits mesh panels (maybe nothched from the outside to maintain a thin frame). Though an etching could till the bill, with a fan-like set of pre-cut tabs on the curved element that could provide a base for gluing to the side element.
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Re: N scale factory/industrial window guards?
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2017, 04:22:12 PM »
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The problem is screening doesn't scale and you will end up with considerably heavier look than what would be right for such a detail.

I've mentioned this before whenever the idea of screening comes up... use clear styrene with a coat of tinted flat clear paint.  You would only need to tint the clear just enough to show it has changed but not dark enough to obscure the detail... would go a lot further in regards to the look of the detail.

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Re: N scale factory/industrial window guards?
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2017, 04:53:15 PM »
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Ummm, stainless steel is hard to work with, especially as small pieces. I found brass wire mesh is excellent: easy to cut, easy to shape, and better at keeping the desired shape. An added feature is when oxidized it looks like rusted steel.  I got mine as scrap while working at a testing lab but they do sell it:

https://www.twpinc.com/wire-mesh-material/brass/100-mesh-brass-0045

For $5 you get 3 sq ft, which can cover a lot of windows. This is just one place I grabbed off the list for "brass mesh screen". There probably are other suppliers. I forgot what mesh size the piece I have is (I think it was 400) but the mesh is so tiny you can barely see see the individual openings. I'd say the openings are one scale N inch or even smaller. Probably too small for your intended use, but other sizes are available.
That place you just "grabbed off the list" is $5/sq ft with a minimum order of 20 sq ft- so $100 plus shipping for enough mesh to cover all the industrial windows in an N scale model of Chicago without any selective compression.  So, beware before you hit the "buy" button.
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