Reading Company Pullman OTTAWA

[brokemoto]

I posted this question on another forum.  No one there was sure.  Perhaps someone who does not post on that forum but does on this one might know.  I think that we do have a CNJ/Reading Company guy here who does not post on the other forum.

As part of the Court Order on Pullman and the sleeping car business, Pullman sold OTTAWA to the Reading.

Does anyone know how Reading had this car lettered in the period 1948-1955?

Was READING COMPANY on the letterboard or PULLMAN?

From what I have read, there is only one extant photograph of the prototype.  It is not a good photograph.   

It appears that there was no small PULLMAN over the doors.  Many roads, after 1948, had the road name on the letterboard but PULLMAN in small lettering over the doors,  or on either end of the car. 

It appears that the car name is where it always was.  What is not clear is does it read READING COMPANY on the letterboard or PULLMAN?

There is a tinplate version of this car that has the bright green stripe over the window sections.  The only Reading passenger cars that I have seen that had that paint scheme were the Standard coaches that Reading had rebuilt into the Looks-Like-American-Flyer-Coach-But-Has-One-Window-Missing.  The tinplate version has READING COMPANY on the letterboard and OTTAWA below the windows, which is where it would have been under Pullman ownership or railroad ownership.

Thank you in advance.

[brokemoto]

Does anyone out there have a copy of Issue #3 from 2009 of The Beeline?  This is the organ of the Reading Technical and Historical Society.  According to an online index that I found, this issue contains an article on Ottawa.  What I am trying to learn is the lettering scheme from 1948-1955.  Did the letterboard read READING COMPANY or PULLMAN?  If it read READING COMPANY, was there small PULLMAN lettering over the doors?  I would expect that the car name would be in the usual place regardless, in the middle of the car below the window line.

[glakedylan]

seems like this topic was discussed on a forum that is at this link:


http://lists.dsop.com/reading/


hope this helps


sincerely
Gary

[brokemoto]

Thanks.  I followed the link, but it took me to a website with both English and something with characters from an Asian language (I can not tell what language it was) that read that the domain was for sale.

[glakedylan]

oh, darn...sorry
my search took me to a forum that noted the url i posted
with word that there had been a discussion on that topic


it would seem the forum no longer exists
apologies for the lame results


hope you can find the info you are looking for


sincerely
Gary

[nkalanaga]

For websites that no longer exist, you can try here:
http://archive.org/web/

The Internet Wayback Machine - archived web pages.  I've used it several times.  No guarantee they'll have your site, but they have some obscure ones.

[brokemoto]

The Internet Wayback Machine - archived web pages.

Thanks.  It was worth a shot, but it said "Sorry, the site has been excluded.............."

[nkalanaga]

Weird.  I've found sites they don't have, but haven't seen one that was excluded.  Sounds like the owner REALLY wanted his site to disappear, or maybe it was the password.  Here is a bit from the Wayback's FAQs:

"Why isn't the site I'm looking for in the archive?

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How can I have my site's pages excluded from the Wayback Machine?

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