Great builders photos of 1870's freight cars

[learmoia]

Very interesting info, but why in the N & Z forum?   

So people see it.. and ideas for MT civil war series...

[peteski]

So people see it.. and ideas for MT civil war series...

See it? I thought that everyone interested in prototype info looked in that section. I know that do. If this section is supposed a bulletin board for everything, why bother posting messages anywhere else?

[wcfn100]

Anyone know the significance of NYC Red Line, White Line, Blue Line Boxcars?

From what I can find for "White Line", it's an early through freight agreement between connecting railroads (NYC being one of them) that would keep cars from being transhipped en route.  Apparently early RRs were apprehensive about sending cars onto other roads.  It looks like it was an early freight car pooling situation too where each road on that route would contribute a certain number of cars to be part of the "White Line".

Here's a court case that has some info.

https://books.google.com/books?id=wQYOAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA475&lpg=PA475&dq=new+york+central+%22white+line%22&source=bl&ots=Sb5sAtAVUW&sig=FmYPoR9bJeU4bSrCJvJ-gSVTSj4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsi5-CucDPAhVq7YMKHUFwAA0Q6AEIODAJ#v=onepage&q=new%20york%20central%20%22white%20line%22&f=false

Here're the definitions (which railroads) of each line.

https://books.google.com/books?id=oKIZAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA146&dq=new+york+central+%22white+line%22%22blue+line%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj18uqducDPAhVH4oMKHfP_CjkQ6AEIMjAE#v=onepage&q=new%20york%20central%20%22white%20line%22%22blue%20line%22&f=false

And here's an early ORER showing cars that are listed for the different lines on different railroads.

https://books.google.com/books?id=lxwqAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA31&dq=new+york+central+%22white+line%22%22blue+line%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj18uqducDPAhVH4oMKHfP_CjkQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=new%20york%20central%20%22white%20line%22%22blue%20line%22&f=false


Jason

[cne_craig]

Thanks Randy,

A bit more information on Harrisburg Car Company (as well as many others) can be found here:

http://www.midcontinent.org/rollingstock/builders/index.htm

I wonder if Art Griffin (Art Griffin Decals, http://www.greatdecals.com/Griffin.htm ) has copies of these?  I wish he still supplied N scale, sadly only HO.  His decal sheets identify the base car color which if you review shows quite a variety of colors used. 

As I model and gather history on a pre-1900 railroad (Central New England and Western) I'm always interested in these finds.  Thanks again.

Cheers,
Craig

[JoeD]

we do have cars of that era...some might work.
  I actually ask the same question when I see Conrail Posts on Railwire LOL   
Joe


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Very interesting info, but why in the N & Z forum?   
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[JoeD]

we saw it as an opportunity to get you worked up.  LOL




quote author=peteski link=topic=40154.msg494085#msg494085 date=1475559255]
See it? I thought that everyone interested in prototype info looked in that section. I know that do. If this section is supposed a bulletin board for everything, why bother posting messages anywhere else?
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[peteski]

we saw it as an opportunity to get you worked up.  LOL

I'm not all worked up - just rolling my eyes.

[NYC1956]

Red, White and Blue were fast freight lines. Notice on the Merchants Despatch reefer 3101 the striping along the bottom of the car - it is blue-white-red in reference to the fast freight lines. In later years MDT resurrected the white scheme on their reefers with the blue-white-red striping along the bottom. That scheme has been done in N scale by several model producers.
Here's another question: The LS&MS car has a "D" prefixing its road number. Anybody know the significance?
Mike