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SP&S Green Boxcar Lettering
« on: August 03, 2016, 01:48:53 AM »
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On the SP&S green Gunderson boxcars, was the yellow lettering the same color as the SP&S "broad stripe" passenger car yellow?  The pictures I can find of clean cars seem to be much brighter and "yellower", but the passenger cars vary so much, depending on lighting, that it's hard to tell.

Bonus question:  Was this scheme ever used on a repainted boxcar?  KD/MT, many, many years ago, made an N scale model, numbered in the older 50 ft double door series, with this scheme.

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Re: SP&S Green Boxcar Lettering
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2016, 01:57:30 AM »
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Interesting. 

Oh well, my decal sheet has room for three sets, and I only have one car, so I'll do both.  That way, I can see which looks best...
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Re: SP&S Green Boxcar Lettering
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2016, 11:27:15 AM »
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The numbers Micro-Trains used was for Gunderson cars
I've never seen a 14xxx series boxcar in the green paint. Since it was introduced in 1968/69 odds are probably pretty slim...

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Re: SP&S Green Boxcar Lettering
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2016, 02:12:55 PM »
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Thank you!  The MT number is 14499, appropriate for the older double door car they used, except that it should be a GN-built car instead of a PS-1.  The data on the car also matches the 14000-14499 series.  It isn't just Gunderson lettering on a PS-1, they put some work into getting it "right", even if it is unprototypical. 

I was thinking that it might have been a one-off design, a car needing to be repainted in the months before the merger.  Since I also never saw one in Pasco, or found a picture of one, it couldn't have been common.
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Re: SP&S Green Boxcar Lettering
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2016, 03:38:56 PM »
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Interesting, did not know that they did a run with the "correct" number series.

This is the car I had with the gunderson built number series seems they corrected it in a subsequient run! Good job MT! :)

The morning sun color guide for SP&S has pictures of the 14xxx series boxcars in the origonal brown and the large SP&S bilboard brown schemes. No green :P

I would say highly unlikely but plausible stand in model :)

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Re: SP&S Green Boxcar Lettering
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2016, 12:47:07 AM »
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I think mine was actually an earlier run, as the underframe and trucks still say "Kadee", but I can't promise they haven't been switched.  It also doesn't have end reporting marks, another sign that's it's probably older than yours.   

Mine has a larger road name, and no Plate C label, yellow door stripe, or "CAR-PAC" label. It's odd that they would take what was a plausible, if likely freelanced, car, and make an obvious fake from it.  But, as you said, yours is a good looking model.

ExactRail made the Gunderson car in SP&S, but I missed out on it, and t doesn't look like they'll ever be rerun.  So, I bought one of their MP cars on sale, stripped and repainted it, and am working on the decals. 
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