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nkalanaga

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Re: Coal or Oil
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2015, 01:37:52 AM »
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There's no reason an eastern road couldn't have used a Vanderbilt tender.  They'd work just as well there as in the west.  If it's your road you can use any tender you like. 

After all, the only two major roads to use the Belpaire firebox extensively were the PRR and the GN, and they didn't even interchange with each other.  Why shouldn't yours use GN-style tenders?
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Re: Coal or Oil
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2015, 02:36:08 PM »
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I am not really a stickler for prototype operations, but on this point I disagree.
Eastern roads did in fact use Vanderbilt tenders (the C&O being one that jumps to mind).

But even if you are making up a completely fictitious railroad set "somewhere in the east",
there is a certain look to the equipment that operated on the east coast during the steam era,
and that S-2 tender just doesn't fit in to my eyes.  It's not just a Vanderbilt tender.
It has that bulkier look to it, with straighter sides and top.   A different  Vandy tender, yes.
One of the Bachmann C&O Vanderbilt tenders would look like an east coast unit.

But GN and NP style tenders really look western to me.  Of course, I used to
model a lot of PRR and NYC stuff, so I am sensitive to the styling differences.

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Re: Coal or Oil
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2015, 03:12:16 PM »
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it is funny what pops to the mind's eye as ... "wrong!!!"

the concor husdon with a PRR paint scheme is the first example.

western engines ... if atsf is in fact western,
have a long legged look and usually somewhat longer tenders.

most roads had a style to them.
headlamps top or centered and generators and air pumps
placed on the pilot deck or left or right andtype of water heater... or none,
they add together for a 'look'

even when the C&O used the vandy tender type....
it looked like a western road loco...

real world is that when the man in charge of loco buying says
I want Belpaire boilers... you get Belpaire boilers.

the n-scale empire of my world, buys locos of the scrap line
and limps along for the next couple of years.
they run anything that will move cars.

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Re: Coal or Oil
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2015, 04:36:58 PM »
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For what it's worth, the S2 now sports a Bachmann long coal tender with DCC and sound. It will do until a better substitute appears. I just couldn't come to terms with the original tender but that's my quirk. Anyone scrapping or parting out an Berkshire or similar engine knows where to sell the tender (hint).
Modeling Southern and N&W in the southeast.

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Re: Coal or Oil
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2015, 04:52:54 PM »
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the RR heavy pacific has a very similar tender.
....sound may be an issue.

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Re: Coal or Oil
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2015, 01:43:19 AM »
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Victor:  The C&O also like to put the air pumps on the smokebox front - like the GN. 

One could come close to the look of GN steam by starting with a Pennsy loco, then giving it the C&O detailing.  Sounds like something a freelancer would do...
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