WOT 70' Baggage 2nd run announced - N&W, CP and others

[David Leonard]

I may get an N&W to run with my Bachmann 611 J. All the photos I have of NS excursions with this type of baggage car show the doors open. Are the doors pictured on the WofT site accurate for 1980's service? The only photo I can find offhand of a prototype that shows the doors closed is this one from 1966: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nw/nw-baggage.jpg

[Puddington]

As I suspected the CPR car hasn't the right doors by a long shot; that said, I can make doors..... NP car is foobie too, but I'd still pop for one, as I would the CB&Q.......oh man, Mr. Wallet will not be happy......

[wcfn100]

Jason, Mr. Freight Car, are you going soft, or just soft because it's a passenger car?   

My lack of passenger car knowledge is only rivaled by modern diesels.

My 'stand in' comment, however, has only to do with the number series.  The ZR certainly had Q baggage-express heavyweights but the little info that's out there shows a different number series being more common.  Besides that, compared to the RI RPO that was rebuilt from a parlor car, and the 76 seat coach that was once part of an articulated set, this car only need to be close to make me happy.

If you like that, wait until my proposal to chop this car down to 60' for the CGW (one of the doors is a 1' too wide  ).

Jason

[Bob Bufkin]

The Southern car probably made it onto the PRR.  Anyone know if the Q and NP or any of the others would regularly be seen on the PRR?  My mail and express train is growing like an old man on Viagra. ;D

[Mark5]

I may get an N&W to run with my Bachmann 611 J. All the photos I have of NS excursions with this type of baggage car show the doors open. Are the doors pictured on the WofT site accurate for 1980's service? The only photo I can find offhand of a prototype that shows the doors closed is this one from 1966: http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nw/nw-baggage.jpg

Actually the doors in the artwork seem an odd choice. Will check my sources and report back.

http://www.wheelsotime.com/storage/thumbnails/7464635-8771011-thumbnail.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1298585086962

In revenue service, these cars did not get top and bottom stripes like coaches and whatnot. But, in company service after Amtrak N&W started adding full striping to all of the "red" cars, so I would guess in excursion service it had top and bottom stripes (?)

[Sokramiketes]

My lack of passenger car knowledge is only rivaled by modern diesels.

My 'stand in' comment, however, has only to do with the number series.  The ZR certainly had Q baggage-express heavyweights but the little info that's out there shows a different number series being more common.  Besides that, compared to the RI RPO that was rebuilt from a parlor car, and the 76 seat coach that was once part of an articulated set, this car only need to be close to make me happy.

If you like that, wait until my proposal to chop this car down to 60' for the CGW (one of the doors is a 1' too wide  ).

Jason

LOL.  Passenger cars don't get no love. 

[wcfn100]

LOL.  Passenger cars don't get no love. 

Honestly, I never really imagined having to think about CGW passenger cars in N scale.  But with the two MTL sleepers, the '35 Hiawatha coach and the Walthers baggage, I'm starting to take notice.

Once we have the 35 or so freight body styles I'd like to see, I will turn my full attention to passenger cars. 

Jason

[Mark5]

Actually the doors in the artwork seem an odd choice. Will check my sources and report back.

http://www.wheelsotime.com/storage/thumbnails/7464635-8771011-thumbnail.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1298585086962

In revenue service, these cars did not get top and bottom stripes like coaches and whatnot. But, in company service after Amtrak N&W started adding full striping to all of the "red" cars, so I would guess in excursion service it had top and bottom stripes (?)

Hmm, I am finding pix with that style door in the late 60s, but in the 50s what I see is this:

http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/ns1730.jpeg

EDIT: Looking through photos I found a pic of 1314 behind J 604 with the door style shown in the artwork. So I guess in the 50s some of this class had the newer style doors installed

This is an older scheme, dating back t 1937:

http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/ns1729.jpeg

Here's one in 1967 with two styles of doors:

http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=54251  ;D


Back to David's question, I don't know if this class made it to excursion service. ???

[David Leonard]

Mark, I think you're right. I looked at my slides more closely, and the one baggage car I could identify has the road number 1407.