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Digitrax DN163A4 Ground pad?
« on: October 16, 2025, 11:02:16 PM »
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Cant find it through normal internet searches, looking for the ground pad on a DN163A4 to wire in a Keep-Alive. Common+ two on top, ground not found.

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Re: Digitrax DN163A4 Ground pad?
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2025, 03:08:37 PM »
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Digitrax tech support provided an amswer, no pad exists. Promptly ordered two ESU replacements.

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Re: Digitrax DN163A4 Ground pad?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2025, 06:45:07 PM »
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The common + is shown ( HERE ) .

I found another picture of the other side of the board that wasn't very good and saw what looked like a capacitor (or maybe 2 side by side) and I'd bet that one side of that cap is ground (just a guess).

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Re: Digitrax DN163A4 Ground pad?
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2025, 11:53:17 PM »
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These do not have a specific negative or ground pad, but if you take a clear photo of the top of the decoder (so I can identify the components) and post it here I'll show you where you can connect the keep-alive's negative wire.
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Re: Digitrax DN163A4 Ground pad?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2025, 02:15:11 PM »
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These do not have a specific negative or ground pad, but if you take a clear photo of the top of the decoder (so I can identify the components) and post it here I'll show you where you can connect the keep-alive's negative wire.

This is provided on the Digitrax website:



There are two common+ pads, 9 other unlabeled pads but unknown what they do. The documentation states Series 6 decoders depending on size can accept a power-extender, so followed two paths (no pun). See what Digitrax would provide and the braintrust here since I have a number of DN163A4's in the fleet.

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Re: Digitrax DN163A4 Ground pad?
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2025, 04:04:52 PM »
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LOL! I need a photo of the other side (the component side where the majority of electronic components are).
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Re: Digitrax DN163A4 Ground pad?
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2025, 04:21:04 PM »
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LOL! I need a photo of the other side (the component side where the majority of electronic components are).



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Re: Digitrax DN163A4 Ground pad?
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2025, 09:47:15 PM »
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We need to try again Tad - you posted the same photo of  the wrong side.  I need the other side, facing down when installed in the chassis.
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Re: Digitrax DN163A4 Ground pad?
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2025, 09:59:59 PM »
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We need to try again Tad - you posted the same photo of  the wrong side.  I need the other side, facing down when installed in the chassis.



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Re: Digitrax DN163A4 Ground pad?
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2025, 10:51:14 PM »
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These are three easily accessible ground/negative locations.  Alternative would be to scrape off the green coating from the trace connecting those three components.  That will create a solder "pad".

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Re: Digitrax DN163A4 Ground pad?
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2025, 09:52:40 AM »
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These are three easily accessible ground/negative locations.  Alternative would be to scrape off the green coating from the trace connecting those three components.  That will create a solder "pad".



Good work!



What is the component in the middle between the diodes?

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Re: Digitrax DN163A4 Ground pad?
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2025, 10:36:26 AM »
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Going by the fact that it is reverse biased I believe it is a Zener diode which in theory will clip any excessive voltage from the track. But just going by its physical size, it is a fairly low power component which would burn up before the much more beefy rectifier diodes would. But it should safely handle very short duration (microseconds) voltage spikes.
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Re: Digitrax DN163A4 Ground pad?
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2025, 02:23:05 PM »
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Appreciate it Pete. Since I am replacing the decoders looks like I have some spares to fry ;)

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