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carlso

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What is this on the UP 4014
« on: October 25, 2019, 03:19:47 PM »
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I have not seen a gizmo such as this before. Is it to adjust valves in the steam chest, or is it a governor, or is it powering a master lubricator?

I did not take this picture but rather it is a screen shot from the most excellent 4014 video that I have seen. Check it out!

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Re: What is this on the UP 4014
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2019, 03:21:06 PM »
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It's an automatic oiler.

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Re: What is this on the UP 4014
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2019, 04:13:12 PM »
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Looks like the Big Boy ran over a bicycle, and some of its parts got stuck in the loco's running gear.   :D
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Re: What is this on the UP 4014
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2019, 07:15:50 PM »
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Backup propulsion system. In the event of a boiler firing failure, pedals pop up from the floor of the cab, and all the joyriders, wannabes and other hangers-on who wheedled their way into the cab are told to start pumping.

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Re: What is this on the UP 4014
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2019, 09:07:02 PM »
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I noticed that too... I assume it is an aftermarket kitbash...
Edit.. looking at some older prototype photos,  I think it was always there but covered with sheet metal..

What is with the radiator like panels on the sides of the front porch.


And notice the bicycle chain is not on this model.. There must modifications  durring service.. or locomotive variations?

And apparently 4019 had smoke lifters at one point?.. never knew that.

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Re: What is this on the UP 4014
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2019, 12:46:18 AM »
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.. looking at some older prototype photos,  I think it was always there but covered with sheet metal..
Display engine 4023 has the chain covers installed:
http://www.rgusrail.com/album/nekenefick/up_4023_16.jpg
http://www.rgusrail.com/album/nekenefick/up_4023_17.jpg

What is with the radiator like panels on the sides of the front porch.
Cooler for the air pump.
See the caption below the photo you posted.
https://oldmachinepress.com/2016/12/20/union-pacific-4-8-8-4-big-boy-locomotive/
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Re: What is this on the UP 4014
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2019, 02:13:22 AM »
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Could be the early ones didn't originally have automatic oilers or had a different way to drive them. Also, I have noticed not all of them had the cooling tubes up front. In fact, 4014 doesn't currently have them and I thought, at first, maybe they didn't put them back on. However, they aren't there in vintage photos of 4014, either.

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Re: What is this on the UP 4014
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2019, 12:10:18 PM »
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Could be the early ones didn't originally have automatic oilers or had a different way to drive them. Also, I have noticed not all of them had the cooling tubes up front. In fact, 4014 doesn't currently have them and I thought, at first, maybe they didn't put them back on. However, they aren't there in vintage photos of 4014, either.

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Even the models were modeled with or without the cooling tubes on the pilot.
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Re: What is this on the UP 4014
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2019, 05:06:10 PM »
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drives the flux capacitor. You see , we ended up back in 1955 when these brutes were still running. This never happened in 2019. :D  Oh i crack me up...

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Re: What is this on the UP 4014
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2019, 05:11:28 PM »
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Re: What is this on the UP 4014
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2019, 05:23:05 PM »
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In this video:
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They show it connected to the eccentric link with a lever rod. They must have moved it up and back so now requires a chain to drive it.

The chain sprocket is right on the eccentric link with a chain that runs up to another sprocket on the lubricator.

The chain doesn't spin continuously. Every time the eccentric moves back and forth the chain moves back and forth to spin the lubricator. This happens pretty slowly compared to how fast the loco is moving.
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Re: What is this on the UP 4014
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2019, 06:02:00 PM »
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See the chain rock back and forth here:

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Re: What is this on the UP 4014
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2019, 08:56:35 PM »
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Interesting that the rear engine does not use the same design for its lubricator.
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Re: What is this on the UP 4014
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2019, 09:40:37 PM »
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Looks like the rear is in the stock location. Dunno why they moved it.