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Re: Help with LBF 60' box car...Trucks/Couplers?
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2017, 02:03:19 AM »
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Thanks for the link Alvin and for the design.
Just getting back to this thread after a little work on test fitting some options. The BLMA trucks will definitely lower the car if I modify the underframe so I don't have to put in the washer.
3 options for trucks/wheels:
#1 (left):  MTL  100-ton truck (plastic wheels)
#2 (center): MTL 1024 Barber Roller Bearing with Medium Extension
#3 (right): BLMA 100-ton truck (with washer since the wheels touch the underframe)
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Re: Help with LBF 60' box car...Trucks/Couplers?
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2017, 10:57:20 AM »
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Thanks for the link Alvin and for the design.
Just getting back to this thread after a little work on test fitting some options. The BLMA trucks will definitely lower the car if I modify the underframe so I don't have to put in the washer.
3 options for trucks/wheels:
#1 (left):  MTL  100-ton truck (plastic wheels)
#2 (center): MTL 1024 Barber Roller Bearing with Medium Extension
#3 (right): BLMA 100-ton truck (with washer since the wheels touch the underframe)
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Here's a good shot of the prototype to compare the ride height and draft gear:

http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cp218024&o=cprail
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Re: Help with LBF 60' box car...Trucks/Couplers?
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2017, 12:36:43 PM »
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Thanks for that link, the height looks pretty good for all 3 of the solutions.

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Re: Help with LBF 60' box car...Trucks/Couplers?
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2017, 02:50:36 PM »
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Thanks for that link, the height looks pretty good for all 3 of the solutions.

The car with the MTL 1024 trucks seems to ride a bit higher than the one with the MTL 100T trucks...which is odd given the 1024 is not a 100T truck....

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Re: Help with LBF 60' box car...Trucks/Couplers?
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2017, 02:52:18 PM »
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The car with the MTL 1024 trucks seems to ride a bit higher than the one with the MTL 100T trucks...which is odd given the 1024 is not a 100T truck....

Unless he put 36" wheels on it.

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Re: Help with LBF 60' box car...Trucks/Couplers?
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2017, 05:39:14 PM »
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Unless he put 36" wheels on it.

Jason

100T trucks have a longer wheelbase in addition to larger wheelsets.

If my recollection is correct, the MTL Barber roller bearing trucks have a shorter wheelbase than an Atlas 70T roller bearing truck

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Re: Help with LBF 60' box car...Trucks/Couplers?
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2017, 05:59:45 PM »
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The car with the MTL 1024 trucks seems to ride a bit higher than the one with the MTL 100T trucks...which is odd given the 1024 is not a 100T truck....
Good eye to see 1.5" scale inches in wheel height (each side of the axle)! The MTL 1024 has FVM 36" wheels.

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Re: Help with LBF 60' box car...Trucks/Couplers?
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2017, 06:46:29 PM »
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Good eye to see 1.5" scale inches in wheel height (each side of the axle)! The MTL 1024 has FVM 36" wheels.

I admittedly "cheated" and simply noticed that the car in the center (with MTL 1024) sat a little higher than the car on the left (with MTL 100T)  :D

To me, the longer wheelbase of a 100T vs a 70T or 50T truck stands out more than the difference between a 36" vs 33" wheelset

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Re: Help with LBF 60' box car...Trucks/Couplers?
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2017, 06:49:01 PM »
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To me, the longer wheelbase of a 100T vs a 70T or 50T truck stands out more than the difference between a 36" vs 33" wheelset

There were 70 ton trucks with a 5'-8" wheel base.

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Re: Help with LBF 60' box car...Trucks/Couplers?
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2017, 07:26:38 PM »
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There were 70 ton trucks with a 5'-8" wheel base.

Jason

To be clear, I was referring to the proverbial MTL trucks that are often found on models of cars that need proper 100T trucks vs something like the MDC truck that I've used as a "stand-in" for a 100T truck.