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Canadian National Passenger Trains 1950-1960's?
« on: September 07, 2015, 08:51:35 PM »
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Did they make it to Chicago? Mir would they have been in Grand Trunk Western trains?  I picked up,a couple of the MT cars just cause I really like the scheme.  Any suggestions on motive power also?
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Re: Canadian National Passenger Trains 1950-1960's?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2015, 10:32:26 PM »
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Into Chicago in the 50s. they would have been behind GTW 4-8-4s, later GP9s, and then in the 60s some CN power was mixed in. The sleepers were CN, and some coaches, in any given train (certainly coaches coming from Montreal or Toronto).  By the late 60s, CN cars might be more evident.  CN cars were turned at Chicago and headed back towards Sarnia as fast as could be managed, apparently the cost of having them on the US side of the border was much higher after 24 hours.  Trains were the International, Inter-City LTD, and the Maple Leaf (eastbound)-LaSalle (westbound)

A GTW/CN train shows up in the middle of this video clip (from Chicago Rail Odyssey Vol 1 (also a bit on the Dixieland, which is misidentified as the Dixie Flyer) :
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Several CN and GTW coaches were rebuilt from parlor cars (not sure about sleepers, but would not be surprised).  I doubt that an unmodified 12-1 would have made an appearance, but strange things did happen.

There is a comment in Dolan's book on GTW (but alas no picture) of a CN RPO going into storage in Michigan in 1971, so it may well be that CN mail baggage cars did get out that way, as well as into the Northeast, where they covered some mail routes on the CV.
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Re: Canadian National Passenger Trains 1950-1960's?
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2015, 10:37:55 PM »
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The Geeps would have been GP9-TTs. It would be nice if Atlas would produce the green and yellow GTW scheme as TTs. I think they may have done the newer scheme.
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Re: Canadian National Passenger Trains 1950-1960's?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2015, 04:12:04 AM »
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The Geeps would have been GP9-TTs. It would be nice if Atlas would produce the green and yellow GTW scheme as TTs. I think they may have done the newer scheme.
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I wished Atlas would do this as well only do them in CV. The CV had 7 of them 4923 -4929.

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Re: Canadian National Passenger Trains 1950-1960's?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2015, 07:12:28 PM »
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In addition to the passenger GP's the CNR and GT used F3's in the early 60's and late 50's with steam generator cars until the FP9's and the FPA4's arrived. Intermountain makes a decent FP9A and although no one yet makes a FPA4 I'm sure one will eventually be offered. :D

The GT F units wore the classic gold and green until 1961 when they got the Black and gray zebra stripes just like their CNR brothers.
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Re: Canadian National Passenger Trains 1950-1960's?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2015, 12:27:07 AM »
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Steam generator car. Hmm. Where have I seen conversation about those possibly coming to N scale?

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Re: Canadian National Passenger Trains 1950-1960's?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2015, 08:44:35 AM »
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A GTW/CN train shows up in the middle of this video clip (from Chicago Rail Odyssey Vol 1 (also a bit on the Dixieland, which is misidentified as the Dixie Flyer) :

Interesting head end car, large maple leaf with upper gold stripe.