Author Topic: Guide to painting a Brass Model.  (Read 1396 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

learmoia

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 4205
  • Gender: Male
  • ......
  • Respect: +1035
    • Ian does Model Railroad stuff on Youtube.
Guide to painting a Brass Model.
« on: January 19, 2023, 07:52:56 PM »
0
I recently acquired 3 NJ International New York Central Milk cars - Undec.

Great condition, little if any obvious tarnish, no foam rot..

I'd like to paint them and I know how to use an airbrush, but I've never painted brass before.

Any tips or tricks I need to know for Brass vs Plastic?

~Ian


TrainCat2

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 1972
  • Gender: Male
  • I'm here to take a beating from RailWire members.
  • Respect: +803
    • TrainCat Model Sales
Re: Guide to painting a Brass Model.
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2023, 08:37:52 AM »
0
NJI should have a lacquer coating so your not dealing with painting direct brass.

Depending on the model condition, clean, rinse, blow the water off with air followed by a hair dryer to remove any left over moisture. Prime and paint.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2023, 08:47:56 AM by TrainCat2 »
Regards
boB Knight

I Spell boB Backwards

mark.hinds

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 479
  • Gender: Male
  • Respect: +64
Re: Guide to painting a Brass Model.
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2023, 11:56:13 AM »
0
You could paint over the lacquer coating, but that would obscure some of the etched detail.  Back when I planned to use brass engines, I stripped the lacquer off using MEK in a sealed glass jar (I think it had wheat germ in it originally).  After soaking for several days, using gloves and ventilation, I scrubbed it with a toothbrush, and washed off the residue.  Most instructions then have us etching the brass, and then priming it, taking steps to avoid getting finger oils under the primer. 

WRT how to do it, a simple Google search yielded lots of hits for me. 

Lemosteam

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 5902
  • Gender: Male
  • PRR, The Standard Railroad of my World
  • Respect: +3620
    • Designer at Keystone Details
Re: Guide to painting a Brass Model.
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2023, 12:35:19 PM »
0
Bill Lane, a serious S Scaler swears by his sandblasting method (an air eraser works really well for this in N scale).  With the right grit you should be able to remove all of the laquer and be ready for paint, with a great surface to adhere to.

A link to his modeling website:

http://www.lanestrains.com/My_Models.htm

Here are some of his painted models after sandblasting to original paint off:







wazzou

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 6720
  • #GoCougs
  • Respect: +1655
Re: Guide to painting a Brass Model.
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2023, 01:19:30 PM »
0
Way back in the day when I had some brass, I used plain distilled white vinegar to both remove the coating and etch the paint for primer.
I'm sure I'd heard or read it somewhere, but it was successful for me.
Bryan

Member of NPRHA, Modeling Committee Member
http://www.nprha.org/
Member of MRHA


learmoia

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 4205
  • Gender: Male
  • ......
  • Respect: +1035
    • Ian does Model Railroad stuff on Youtube.
Re: Guide to painting a Brass Model.
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2023, 01:24:39 PM »
+1
Thanks for the info.. In the past I have come across other reasons to get an air eraser, so I suppose I should bite the bullet.

(But really, I should finish unpacking as I may already have one and not know it..  :facepalm:)

Ed Kapuscinski

  • Global Moderator
  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 24682
  • Head Kino
  • Respect: +9122
    • Conrail 1285
Re: Guide to painting a Brass Model.
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2023, 10:53:42 AM »
0
Thanks for the info.. In the past I have come across other reasons to get an air eraser, so I suppose I should bite the bullet.

(But really, I should finish unpacking as I may already have one and not know it..  :facepalm:)

I was pleasantly surprised by how affordable they are.

Sokramiketes

  • Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 4957
  • Better modeling through peer pressure...
  • Respect: +1482
    • Modutrak
Re: Guide to painting a Brass Model.
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2023, 01:37:15 PM »
0
I've painted those exact models, and since the details are a bit oversize anyway, had good luck with Tamiya spray bombs.  Only surface prep was to wash the model.  Left the lacquer clear as a base for the Tamiya lacquer sprays, as it was well applied on my model.   

Tamiya Fine Gray Primer
Tamiya TS-5 Olive Drab
Tamiya TS-6 Matty Black



Watch the Microscale decals.  The newer run is lemon yellow.  The older run, if you can track them down, are much closer to dulux gold. 
« Last Edit: January 23, 2023, 01:40:02 PM by Sokramiketes »