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GM&O/RF&P???
« on: February 13, 2010, 01:57:09 PM »
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what's the story here with the nearly identical paint scheme?  where they under the same control at some point or is it a stock EMD paint scheme?



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Re: GM&O/RF&P???
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 02:03:11 PM »
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Never read anything about them being connected business wise.  Maybe just an EMD thing.

Did you notice the ex Alco trucks under the GM&O's.

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Re: GM&O/RF&P???
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2010, 02:10:27 PM »
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Never read anything about them being connected business wise.  Maybe just an EMD thing.

Did you notice the ex Alco trucks under the GM&O's.


i'm guessing they traded in some of their RS-3 rebuilds.
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Re: GM&O/RF&P???
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2010, 02:41:28 PM »
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Probably an EMD catalog style. That's how the Algoma Central and the DL&W used the same grey/maroon/yellow schemes; it was right out of GM's style book.

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Re: GM&O/RF&P???
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 03:11:51 PM »
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I have always wondered this too.

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Re: GM&O/RF&P???
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 03:47:17 PM »
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Probably an EMD catalog style. That's how the Algoma Central and the DL&W used the same grey/maroon/yellow schemes; it was right out of GM's style book.

That might explain why the CB&Q, UP, BN, MILW, and MRL had similar schemes too.
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Re: GM&O/RF&P???
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 06:54:49 PM »
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That might explain why the CB&Q, UP, BN, MILW, and MRL had similar schemes too.

Not for BN. That was created by merger of NP, CB&Q, et. al. That scheme would have been influenced by other stuff that had been running for years prior.

UP's had the same colour scheme since they first dieselized.

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Re: GM&O/RF&P???
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2010, 08:42:05 AM »
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I believe that the RF&P and GM&O schemes' resemblance is because they were designs created by EMD. 

Take a look back at factory-painted covered wagons of many roads, and you will see a lot of other EMD-designed schemes with similarities.  My favorite detail is the horizontal line on a cab unit that ends in the arrow point (sort of like a fish hook) near the front.  On some roads, the hook was up, and on others the hook was down.

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Re: GM&O/RF&P???
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2010, 11:22:48 AM »
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I believe that the RF&P and GM&O schemes' resemblance is because they were designs created by EMD. 

Take a look back at factory-painted covered wagons of many roads, and you will see a lot of other EMD-designed schemes with similarities.  My favorite detail is the horizontal line on a cab unit that ends in the arrow point (sort of like a fish hook) near the front.  On some roads, the hook was up, and on others the hook was down.

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That was a part of the AC and DL&W schemes (which also shared identical colours) and also the GM F7 demonstrators. (Which I think were blue/yellow/silver). The AC never had any F-units in that scheme though. They dieselized with 2 SW8s and 21 GP7s.

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Re: GM&O/RF&P???
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 11:27:19 AM »
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Re: GM&O/RF&P???
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2010, 12:52:40 PM »
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NandW: Technically that would be the Delaware Lackawanna & Western, not Erie Lackawanna. The E-L did not exist in the 1950s; their paint scheme was derived from the DL&W's passenger colours after the DL&W/Erie merger.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=276548

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Re: GM&O/RF&P???
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 01:03:55 PM »
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Heh, I was just saying, that is (was) the E-L scheme. ;)