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Outbuildings or sheds for layouts
« on: September 24, 2009, 01:39:03 PM »
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Has anyone built a layout in an outbuilding or shed? There have been quite few
in the Model Railroader track plan and layout yearly publications. The Austrailian
modeler who has the cool Santa Fe N Scale, Rod Warren, has built one. I might
have the area for a 6'-12' and will get to build the San Joaquin Valley SP (J.J. is
exicited).

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Re: Outbuildings or sheds for layouts
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2009, 01:42:02 PM »
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I'd make sure it is well insulated. Temperature extremes will be well .... more extreme in an unisulated shed.


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Re: Outbuildings or sheds for layouts
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2009, 01:48:21 PM »
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I just finished reading this:
http://www.amazon.com/Railway-Modelling-Realistic-Iain-Rice/dp/1844253597

(My library had it... kinda odd choice, but it was good)

And he talked a good bit about shed layouts, since English houses really don't tend to have much room. Definitely worth a read.

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Re: Outbuildings or sheds for layouts
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2009, 01:51:07 PM »
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Wendell is.....where is he?
I WANNA SEE THE BOAT MOVIE!

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Re: Outbuildings or sheds for layouts
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2009, 02:50:13 PM »
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It would be insulated with the pink stuff, drywall hung and air and heat - Power run to it
from a backyard junction. It would go on my patio, which is already poured concrete.

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Re: Outbuildings or sheds for layouts
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2009, 02:59:19 PM »
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You can get a pre-fab that they bring on a roll-off truck, or if you have an 84 Lumber, they offer a build it yourself kit, complete with roof trusses!  The 12x16 kit is pretty cool, because the gambrel room forms a wide overhang, which forms a neat shelf on the interior.



I even built a model of it for my 84!  I always thought that overhang area would be a great, if difficult to access, place for staging yards!

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Re: Outbuildings or sheds for layouts
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2009, 03:03:11 PM »
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Similar, but not - how 'bout a 30'x30' loft in a barn? Fortunately in my case it was semi-finished to start with and was at one time somebody's living space.  :o

Climate control issues are the same, however. My biggest concern is wide swings in humidity, so am accordingly designing the layout to minimize use of wood.
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Re: Outbuildings or sheds for layouts
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2009, 03:33:02 PM »
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Wendell is.....where is he?
My building is a 20x20 garage kit Attached to my house I insulated and sheet rock it. I have a gas heater in it and have a window air conditioner for the summer Wendell

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Re: Outbuildings or sheds for layouts
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2009, 03:45:21 PM »
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My building is similar to Wendell's in that I use gas heat and have 2 window units to keep it cool. However, I made a huge mistake this summer. I worked most evenings after dark, and just left the door open with a couple of fans on while I worked, shutting the door as I left. What I didn't realize was I was trapping in the humidity every night.

Just before my ops session a couple of weeks ago, I noticed mold growing on some of the Caspia. I put the dehumidifier from the basement in the layout building and it has run almost non-stop for 3 weeks now. I empty 1 gallon each day, sometime twice a day. There is only 2 doors, no windows and the entire thing is insulated.

I didn't notice problems with benchwork swelling as much as with locos not working well. I had cleaned all the wheels after the last session, but these were even worse.

Looks like I've got to buy an extra dehumidifier for the basement, now.

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Re: Outbuildings or sheds for layouts
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2009, 05:08:39 PM »
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I just finished reading this:
http://www.amazon.com/Railway-Modelling-Realistic-Iain-Rice/dp/1844253597

(My library had it... kinda odd choice, but it was good)

And he talked a good bit about shed layouts, since English houses really don't tend to have much room. Definitely worth a read.

I borrowed that from the library too. It is a great book. I enjoy Ian's prose. You can see that many of his Kalmbach books are basically the same material slanted to a US market. He is a versatile writer.  The chapter on signaling was enlightening to me as I had no idea about UK signaling practice. It is very different than the US practice.

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Re: Outbuildings or sheds for layouts
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2009, 05:19:28 PM »
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Interesting.

I am halfway through a new roof on a dirt floor garage that was built in the 1920s... It is NOT pretty... but it's unusable as a garage because of the alley it sits on. 12'x30' that I have been thinking about dividing in half to make uninsulated storage for the mower etc. and the other half finished off as a workshop or home office...

A match and a gallon of gas probably would have been more economical as a renovation.  ;)

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Re: Outbuildings or sheds for layouts
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2009, 06:23:57 PM »
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In California, we get the same weather all the time, so humidity might not be
an issue. Wendall nice building.