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General Discussion => Layout Engineering Reports => Topic started by: Ed Kapuscinski on April 04, 2019, 01:57:19 PM
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I'm hoping it's not too late to declare.
I bought a handful of "cheap and cheerful" vintage structure kits back when my dad was going through his cancer treatment (Model Power US Customs and Casket Company and a Heljan furniture factory). I sent them his way with the idea of doing a TTRAK module (or two) based around them once he built them.
Well, he knocked them out a while ago and I've been slacking on giving them a home. He got through treatment with flying colors and is now doing great.
I've also really missed having somewhere to do some industrial switching in the vein of my old school oNeTRAK module.
http://conrail1285.com/onetrak-modules-the-city-module/
So this is as good as a time as any to do something about these issues. What's more thematically correct for some modules that had their genesis in a cancer diagnosis than a good old chemical plant? Nothing!
So that's what I'm working on.
I have a bunch of frames done so I just needed to start throwing some foam on them and getting some track down. That's been done over the past few days. Now it's time to glue it down.
Why the paper building templates? Because the structures are currently residing with my folks while I was in the process of moving.
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I still need another structure for along the back as well as an assload of details.
I'm also still struggling on exactly what the plant makes. I'm planning for inbound loads of chlorine (or whatever else is shipped in Atlas 17k gal tank cars), palletized loads of something else (in boxcars), something that will come in in two and three bay covered hoppers and coal (for the boiler house). It'll ship finished products out in boxcars from the warehouse. All the actual production work will take place "off scene" to the rear. I'm open to suggestions for what could be being made here AND what all those inbound loads actually are.
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I'm also still struggling on exactly what the plant makes. I'm planning for inbound loads of chlorine (or whatever else is shipped in Atlas 17k gal tank cars), palletized loads of something else (in boxcars), something that will come in in two and three bay covered hoppers and coal (for the boiler house). It'll ship finished products out in boxcars from the warehouse. All the actual production work will take place "off scene" to the rear. I'm open to suggestions for what could be being made here AND what all those inbound loads actually are.
Components of fertilizer can include chlorine (shipped in tank cars) and potash (shipped in covered hoppers).
Packaging for the finished product could arrive in boxcars.
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@RockGp40 might be able to help you with rolling stock and loads information. There's a big fertilizer plant they switch... or used to switch.. near Chestertown. Lots of tanks going in, and you'd need a tank farm. (PVC Pipe and some styrene sheet and you're good to go!) And potash moves in covered hoppers.
Lots of pipes, too. So every time you go to Wawa, grab a handful of those red coffee stirrers! Free building materials, and it keeps them out of the landfill!
Lee
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@RockGp40 might be able to help you with rolling stock and loads information. There's a big fertilizer plant they switch... or used to switch.. near Chestertown. Lots of tanks going in, and you'd need a tank farm. (PVC Pipe and some styrene sheet and you're good to go!) And potash moves in covered hoppers.
Are you thinking true chemical (Lee refers to the Eastman plant I work regularly) or agricultural with tanks? At places like Southern States, Nutrien (ex Crop Production Services), and Willard's, they receive inbound freight by tank cars and hoppers. Reloading of boxcars doesn't happen in my world. The product received is offloaded by hoses to tanks or conveyor to trucksa nd placed for eventual/immediate use.
A more interesting place to model would have been Invista nee DuPont in Seaford. There they had their own generating plant for coal, and inbound tanks and covered hoppers for loading and unloading.
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Are you thinking true chemical (Lee refers to the Eastman plant I work regularly) or agricultural with tanks? At places like Southern States, Nutrien (ex Crop Production Services), and Willard's, they receive inbound freight by tank cars and hoppers. Reloading of boxcars doesn't happen in my world. The product received is offloaded by hoses to tanks or conveyor to trucksa nd placed for eventual/immediate use.
A more interesting place to model would have been Invista nee DuPont in Seaford. There they had their own generating plant for coal, and inbound tanks and covered hoppers for loading and unloading.
Ooh, definitely the later. Tell me more!
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Well, more than a decade we did! I found this old thread, but sadly, some of the images are no longer available. I had hoped the track diagram would still be there. Damn that Tom Mann fella!
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=15564.0
Boy, a lot has changed though. NS doesn't work the yard anymore (Delmarva Central does), Invista became shuttered during the 2008-2009 time frame and hasn't seen a railcar in 7 years, Venture Milling was a casualty of Perdue trying to go more organic, so no rail service there. The local doesn't have much to do normally, other than get us our freight, work Gardiner Asphalt, and run up to Bridgeville/Harrington. They were trying to do a transload facility in Seaford but I am not sure of the demand for one.
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Will you be stealing the titty bar, meth lab and hourly motel placeholders from @seusscaboose?
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Quick update.
Track is down. Buildings are figured out.
A layer of foamcore is down too to bring the grade up to track level.
And with all that progress... I spent some time playing with it. Took about an hour or so to switch out cars when I wasn't pulling swapping. This process greatly impeded, however, because the only lead I had for it that would fit on the workbench was a corner module.
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Those kitty cats are SOOOO cute! They definitely need more dirt, though.
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Making more progress.
Here's the overall conceptualization of the "business end" from a few days ago. The unloading shed was only a mockup of the arrangement as you'll soon see.
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It's starting to come together after my DKS Deals Depot haul.
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I started working on the covered hopper unloading building front.
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Mostly complete:
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It seems to me that "Vintage" chemical should be served by those 1969 Atlas Whale tankers, equipped of course, with Rapido couplers, and switched by a Lima Plymouth... you know, the one that looks inflated...
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It seems to me that "Vintage" chemical should be served by those 1969 Atlas Whale tankers, equipped of course, with Rapido couplers, and switched by a Lima Plymouth... you know, the one that looks inflated...
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/10/9-290419111654.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=10666)
Actually, I'd need two of em.
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Those are the "loki's" at the Rohm & Haas plant my grandfather used to work at and which serves as much of the inspiration for this endeavor.
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I like the mix of brick and corrugated siding... The load out is very nicely rendered. I better get back to work on mine!
Lee
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It seems to me that "Vintage" chemical should be served by those 1969 Atlas Whale tankers, equipped of course, with Rapido couplers, and switched by a Lima Plymouth... you know, the one that looks inflated...
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/10/9-290419111654.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=10666)
Fuggedabout that dinky Plymouth and get a Fairbanks-Morse centercab:
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Scored a bunch of 1" PVC couplings that make excellent looking tanks yesterday.
But that got me thinking about building layouts. The Heljan warehouse just wasn't really filling in the scene the way I wanted it too, and after talking with my grandfather I realized that it was really too small of a warehouse for a facility like this.
So I did some shifting around and came up with this.
Thoughts?
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Other then the fact your saw tooth building would be obliterated in an industrial accident . . . :trollface:
I'd be interested in seeing side by sides for comparison, and some sort of rendition of the tank car load/unload facility approach. I'd be interested in how far you intend to push Rule #1 since the TTrak space will never completely grant you the area to fully reproduce said grandpa's fondly loved employer.
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I'd be interested in seeing side by sides for comparison...
Here's the original arrangement of the warehouse.
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And here's an aerial photo I recently turned up.
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That giant building in the far upper left is the outbound warehouse.
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ok then. To even suggest something that big, the scale means you have to run your modulars wall around ALL the empty space on the left end there. Something like this area:
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Granted, if you did it would a great place to hide lighting drivers and even a DCC powerstation.
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ok then. To even suggest something that big, the scale means you have to run your modulars wall around ALL the empty space on the left end there. Something like this area:
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Yeah, I'm not going THAT far, but I felt like the visual "heft" of the Heljan building just wasn't enough. I think I'm going to use SOMETHING in there, but I think the modulars (actually parts from the Model Power "Twin Diesel Shed") are going back to where they were.
Granted, if you did it would a great place to hide lighting drivers and even a DCC powerstation.
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Might be time to look at some Cornerstone kits for that corner. How about Allied Rail Rebuilders? It has great industrial lines, and plenty more "heft" than the Heljan.
(https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/401723125709_/Walthers-Cornerstone-N-Scale-Allied-Rail-Rebuilders-N.jpg)
Union Crane might be a good alternative, too.
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When I built the automobile plant at the Delmarva Club, I made a very simple box out of masonite, then clad it with corrugated siding. You could very quickly whip up a big warehouse in the foot print Philip has indicated, and just slap some structure wall modules, siding material, or even printed facades to finish it.
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The DPM modulars in the front provide some office space, but the building looming in the back was the assembly plant, just a bunch of siding laminated to masonite. With the loading bays along the sides and some windows cut in, it was pretty effective. Wish I had a better picture, I stopped by the club last week, and it's no longer there.
Lee
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Might be time to look at some Cornerstone kits for that corner. How about Allied Rail Rebuilders? It has great industrial lines, and plenty more "heft" than the Heljan.
Sorry, I was talking about the gray building, not the "Metro Storage" one that, in this case, came from Life-Like. That building is perfect for this use.
It's the warehouse I'm looking for a new direction of. I like Lee's idea. I want to try and use as many "vintage" elements as possible though. I was on the fence about the Bachmann car shop (but it works so perfectly when sliced and diced). Don't know if I know of anything that will fit the bill from that camp though.
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I have a couple of those newer Bachmann Plymouths with the monkey bar handrails if you want them. I think I whacked the handrails off one of them.
It seems to me that "Vintage" chemical should be served by those 1969 Atlas Whale tankers, equipped of course, with Rapido couplers, and switched by a Lima Plymouth... you know, the one that looks inflated...
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/10/9-290419111654.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=10666)
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Thanks to the Patron Saint of the Railwire I've got the guts for the redone warehouse.
These are Red Wing Milling buildings getting cut down to two stories.
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That's going to help a lot with the massing.
Lee
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Progress is continuing.
An overview of the current state.
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The new warehouse building in progress with its loading dock.
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A photo that coined my assertion that "model railroading is one pain in the a$$ after another". Here I'm sanding some styrene to a point so it could form the oblique corners without ugly gaps.
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The newly painted and windowed process building. Gotta finish the tiny roof strip.
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A boxcar spotted at one of the doors along the process building.
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An experiment on creating caps for tanks by cutting them out of rolled sculpy. It worked ok but would be better with a cookie cutter. So a cookie cutter is arriving today.
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Looking good! I like the overview shot.
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Looking good! I like the overview shot.
Thanks!
I'm pretty happy with how it's turning out. I feel like there's more "real modeling" going on here than I've done in a long time.
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It's a lot easier to glue a piece of styrene to the top of the pvc pipe then sand the edge smooth. You're going to drive yourself crazy trying to get the sculpy to be uniform, and it will probably make you miss the deadline.... No wait. What you're doing is fine. Yeah. It'll work great! That's the ticket!
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It's a lot easier to glue a piece of styrene to the top of the pvc pipe then sand the edge smooth. You're going to drive yourself crazy trying to get the sculpy to be uniform, and it will probably make you miss the deadline.... No wait. What you're doing is fine. Yeah. It'll work great! That's the ticket!
Lol. I have a secret weapon... a cookie cutter! lol.
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Big step forward this week.
Got the replacement warehouse assembled and painted. Now to fill it with windows and a roof. You can also see the REAL big step forward here: painted rails and a quick coat of paint on the foamcore. The ground is going to get a better treatment than this, but I've always been a big proponent of doing this so it all looks less "undecorated" as I continue to make progress. The plan is to pave around the tracks, but for now, this looks way better than it did.
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Suns out, guns out. Tank tops are finished.
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I think they turned out well. A little sanding and some paint and I'm in business.
I also did the roof for the warehouse. It's just sitting loose for now while until I get its final fitment done.
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Slow going while I wait for some parts, but here's the retaining wall for the pond.
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Looks great Ed.
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Don't be afraid to butt one kind of building construction against another -- like wooden to curtain wall to brick to sheet metal siding. They just added on to plants like this as they needed new space to expand into a new building -- they didn't tear the old one down and build a whole brand new building for the expanded operations. Having all different types of building construction built onto or added to as one complete structure is a feature most layout builders don't think of. And it means you can make a very large complex of connected buildings which LOOKS like a huge plant. Look at the thread about jdcolombo's National Carbon Company to see a whole mishmash of buildings sprawling out from each other. Almost every addition was made at least 10 years after the previous one, and you can tell that from the types of architecture each section used -- the best techniques of each one's time.
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Hopefully you received your packet of bits and pieces before you left for the beach...
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Hopefully you received your packet of bits and pieces before you left for the beach...
Nope. But it'll be in the big mail delivery when we return. Thanks!
Your carts will be on their way when I return.
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Back in the paving groove:
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Thank you @RAIL N SCALE for the new roller design! It's working great!
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I had recently thought about planning an ops session for these modules and what that'd be like. It made me realize I really needed a Conrail style ZTS map to make it all make sense.
So, while sitting on various calls, I whipped one up.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Rohm-and-Haas-ZTS-Map.jpg)
It's not a perfect match to the real deal, but it's close enough for me!
You can see examples of real ones here: http://conrail1285.com/conrails-zts-maps/
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Ok! The N Scale Weekend got me into the groove of working on this some more, so here's a big "bulk update".
Here's how she sits today.
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I'm looking forward to seeing a Shinkansen running over THAT track!
Here it is while I was working on it yesterday. Oddly, I think it looks better wet... lol.
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And over the past few weeks.
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Looking good, but man, that blue trim is... intense.
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Looking good, but man, that blue trim is... intense.
Since he is a Conrail-man, I'm not surprised he used Conrail blue. :D
But I agree that it seems a bit out of place. Dull silver, black, or even dark green would attract less attention.
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Since he is a Conrail-man, I'm not surprised he used Conrail blue. :D
But I agree that it seems a bit out of place. Dull silver, black, or even dark green would attract less attention.
Yeah, I generally agree, but that's the color that my dad chose, so... here it is!
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It seems to be all I post any more but I really like the ground cover. Weedy tracks are easy on the eyes. A very cool module!
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Only thing I'm wondering is if there'd be overhead pipes and materials transfer bridges connecting buildings to each other --- especially the older ones that would have been modified with new technology and processes over time. Plus it would visually tie all the structures together.
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Tits
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Only thing I'm wondering is if there'd be overhead pipes and materials transfer bridges connecting buildings to each other --- especially the older ones that would have been modified with new technology and processes over time. Plus it would visually tie all the structures together.
Oh yeah, absolutely! They're in the plan. In fact I just got a whole bunch of plastruct in to make em.
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That's starting to look like you know what you're doing. The trackwork is spot on.
Lee
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Added a skyboard and painted the fascia.
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I've redone the box to keep things a bit tighter. No need to be protecting all that air AND now the sky boards will fully protect it.
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Since I'm working on the modules' neighbor I figured I should just keep it all in one thread.
This whole Covid thing has put me in the mood for some "comfort modeling" so I decided to do the next module in the set: Bridesburg.
For those of you who aren't from Philly, Bridesburg is a neighborhood in Northeast Philly, just north of Port Richmond and Fishtown. It was where I grew up.
This progress is not much to look at here, but I spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to arrange everything here. I think I found an arrangement that works for me.
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I'm trying to replicate this scene from my childhood. My grandfather worked at the Rohm & Haas plant across the street here and I have many happy memories of this area.
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And this is ridiculuous, I know, but I like the idea of running Reading power (even though it was served by the PRR/PC) here because my other grandfather was a Reading man in Port Richmond.
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Progress continues with a sheet of foamcore being laid down to bring ground level up to the height of the roadbed and everything has been drawn in.
I also started construction of a rough rendition of the Chinese restaurant on the corner here. I know a DPM building might've matched better, but I have an assload of the IHC Philly storefronts so I'm using one of those.
I wish the geometry of TTRAK allowed me to capture the weird angle it sits at, but I've got no such luck.
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Pics as I get a little further along.
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Well *****. I just realized something. I think I need to find a way to work this in there too. There are few things more Philly than a string band.
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In case you're interested, this is what they're all about.
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I think you need to focus on doing justice to the Chinese joint.
That thing is screaming for a kitbash of some DPM parts and I bet @DKS would only need about 6 minutes to decide and tell you which parts to use.
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I think you need to focus on doing justice to the Chinese joint.
That thing is screaming for a kitbash of some DPM parts and I bet @DKS would only need about 6 minutes to decide and tell you which parts to use.
I'm hoping that the final model will be a good enough standin. I'm really aiming to capture the character of the place (including spending half an hour digging around for my Reading Green paint).
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Well *****. I just realized something. I think I need to find a way to work this in there too. There are few things more Philly than a string band.
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Check out the video for "When The Midnight Choo Choo Leaves For Alabam" and note the bandmembers' uniforms with railroad crossing crossbucks and lights:
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I'm hoping that the final model will be a good enough standin. I'm really aiming to capture the character of the place (including spending half an hour digging around for my Reading Green paint).
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Amazing.
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(awesome DPM slices)
That's hot. However... the building itself has to be oriented facing Thompson St because there is no street leading off the edge of the module in that direction. I'm thinking there will just be an alley here.
So, for that reason, I put this together today. Not, by any means, done, but good enough as a stand in for me! Now to figure out the annex to the left and what I'm going to do for the Ferko building (which will be to the left of the building in this photo as opposed to the right).
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That's hot. However... the building itself has to be oriented facing Thompson St because there is no street leading off the edge of the module in that direction. I'm thinking there will just be an alley here.
So, for that reason, I put this together today. Not, by any means, done, but good enough as a stand in for me! Now to figure out the annex to the left and what I'm going to do for the Ferko building (which will be to the left of the building in this photo as opposed to the right).
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You lost me. Draw a map.
The building is facing Thompson street, which is the very street I grabbed the street view from, so I have no idea what the issue here is.
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Wait... that's a corner building. It doesn't "face" one street. Besides, where it was originally, the more interesting side of the building would be facing the front of the layout.
The new arrangement below puts the less interesting side of the building facing front.
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Ed I’m really happy to hear that your dad made it through the treatment and is doing better.
Craig
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Ed I’m really happy to hear that your dad made it through the treatment and is doing better.
Craig
Thanks! It's kinda amazing actually, I think the experience actually made him even better.
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Wait... that's a corner building. It doesn't "face" one street. Besides, the more interesting side of the building would be facing the front of the layout.
The arrangement below puts the less interesting side of the building facing front.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-04-07-22.27.30.jpg)
It does indeed. But that's what I've got to deal with. I need the back of those buildings facing the right side of the module because they theoretically back up to the chemical plant next door.
I drew this up to help explain how I'm adapting everything.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Screenshot-2020-04-08-11.22.29.jpg)
As you can see, I'm having to take some geographic liberties here.
The "side" of the building (that current faces Bridge Street) is going to have a small alley between it and the tracks.
The tracks themselves are going to look like this (if the street along them was slightly busier).
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Screenshot-2020-04-08-11.29.22.png)
Does that help it make more sense?
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I wasn't happy with the building color as is, so here it is mid-update. I'm drybrushing some brown on top. I cleaned it up some more after this photo.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-04-08-13.24.41.jpg)
And here's a top down shot of the thing.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-04-08-13.24.49.jpg)
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I recognize that grey building next to it! Glad its getting used.
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(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/railwire/eds-module.jpg)
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I recognize that grey building next to it! Glad its getting used.
Oh yeah man! I'm hoping it'll still fit as I adjust things. I've been wanting to make sure it gets a good public spot on the last couple of projects but haven't had much luck.
(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/railwire/eds-module.jpg)
Well *****. Now you've got me thinking... Hmm.
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Well *****. Now you've got me thinking... Hmm.
You sort of answered all of your own questions when you drew this:
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Screenshot-2020-04-08-11.22.29.jpg)
All I did was turn it into a plan.
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This threads making me want to fire up the table saw, hope I can get some time soon to actually go on some similar adventures.
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This threads making me want to fire up the table saw, hope I can get some time soon to actually go on some similar adventures.
Doooooo it!
I get no greater satisfaction than inspiring others to get off their butt.
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(sexy turret photo)
So... should I stop working on my building? :D
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Doooooo it!
I get no greater satisfaction than inspiring others to get off their butt.
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The question is: Who will host the next Op's session. Me, you, or Dave.
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So... should I stop working on my building? :D
Unless you want two versions of it, yes. ;)
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Unless you want two versions of it, yes. ;)
:D
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Would it be premature to ask for a drawing of a footprint? I'd like to make sure I account for it properly while designing everything else.
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Would it be premature to ask for a drawing of a footprint? I'd like to make sure I account for it properly while designing everything else.
Approximately 5” x 3” going from memory. But I’ll give you a more definitive size when I’m back in the woods again.
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Ok, so 3x5 was an overestimate.
Overall size of the building including the turret is 3-7/8 x 1-53/64”
Actual footprint of the building is 3-5/16 x 1-11/16”
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Approximately 5” x 3” going from memory.
Hmmm... you remember it as being much bigger than it actually is...
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Hmmm... you remember it as being much bigger than it actually is...
TWSS.
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Ok, so 3x5 was an overestimate.
Overall size of the building including the turret is 3-7/8 x 1-53/64”
Actual footprint of the building is 3-5/16 x 1-11/16”
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@VonRyan , CWF- Simply the kindest, rightest thing to do. Good Man.
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Amazing. Simply amazing.
Thank you for the details! I can now move Bridesburg a bit further along now.
In other Vintage Chemical news: having it out reminded me how unhappy I was with the hopper dump/boiler house setup I was, so I'm moving that all around. I also found a solution I like for cleaning up the dump pit: reused sidewalk from York! I moved another building over here too and will be using the original "boiler house" over on the other side of the facility as a process building.
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Still to come are the big plate-glass front windows, the modern entryway, foundation, sign-boxes (sorry, actual signage isn’t something I can do), various exterior bits, glazing for all the other windows, paint, and weathering.
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Did @VonRyan happen to mention this is his first ever DPM kitbash?
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Did @VonRyan happen to mention this is his first ever DPM kitbash?
No! And you'd never know it. Looks amazing so far.
I snapped a few more photos of the rearranged buildings.
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I like the new boiler house. If you need a smoke stack, I have a couple rolling around, including the gigantic one from old Heljan kit, although for the size of the building, a couple of tall steel stacks would probably look good.
Then only issue I see with @VonRyan 's kitbash is the second floor windows don't line up on the side. If it's not too late, raise that wall section up and build a foundation at the bottom so the windows are at the same level.
It might be "close enough" for most, but being a building designer, I can't unsee that...
Lee
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/16/9-160420105648.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=16615)
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Ahahaha, I personally like the idea that it'll drive you crazy now :)
Thanks for the stack offer, I might take you up on it. I've gotta see what I've got around here that I can fabricobble together.
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Trying out a new backdrop photo candidate. I'm thinking I'm going to have to assemble the backdrop for this from a number of sources. Obviously this is too big.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-04-15-17.34.15.jpg)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-04-15-17.34.36.jpg)
But I like the general direction of it. Now just to find more suitable images.
Here you can see the new production area arrangement.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-04-15-22.45.15.jpg)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-04-15-22.44.28.jpg)
I built a new roof for the rather ubiquitous building from some styrene I had hanging around. Thank goodness I had that board and batten stuff!
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-04-15-21.18.46.jpg)
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I like the new boiler house. If you need a smoke stack, I have a couple rolling around, including the gigantic one from old Heljan kit, although for the size of the building, a couple of tall steel stacks would probably look good.
Then only issue I see with @VonRyan 's kitbash is the second floor windows don't line up on the side. If it's not too late, raise that wall section up and build a foundation at the bottom so the windows are at the same level.
It might be "close enough" for most, but being a building designer, I can't unsee that...
Lee
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/16/9-160420105648.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=16615)
The issue is that the various pieces, being from so many different kits, it’s hard to match everything on the actual structure without sacrificing the overall proportions. Plus, on that extension, I still need to cut that bottom-right window out to add the door. So they just have to be where they are. Besides, it is actually too late to go back. Everything is thoroughly MEK’ed together and trying to take it apart now would just damage the pieces.
This DPM kitbashing is definitely not an exact science.
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Resized the image to 75% and it's good to go. Now to find enough other suitable ones...
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-04-16-13.37.27.jpg)
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I love how that's turning out.
@VonRyan no worries, it is what it is. But keep in mind what an old carpenter once told me... If'n someone put it together, someone else can take it apart. If you score the joint a couple of times it should snap apart right where you want it.
Adding a door is easy. Cut the door opening down from the window, and allow for a step, maybe two, up from the sidewalk then used the upper part of the window opening for a transom above the door.
I did that on my townhouse block...
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/16/9-160420153050.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=16619)
For a foundation, just cut another section of DPM brick wall and add it to the bottom, us a bit of strip styrene to "trim" the joint, and paint it to look like a stone ledge between the foundation and upper wall.
Lee
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I love how that's turning out.
@VonRyan no worries, it is what it is. But keep in mind what an old carpenter once told me... If'n someone put it together, someone else can take it apart. If you score the joint a couple of times it should snap apart right where you want it.
Adding a door is easy. Cut the door opening down from the window, and allow for a step, maybe two, up from the sidewalk then used the upper part of the window opening for a transom above the door.
I did that on my townhouse block...
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/16/9-160420153050.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=16619)
For a foundation, just cut another section of DPM brick wall and add it to the bottom, us a bit of strip styrene to "trim" the joint, and paint it to look like a stone ledge between the foundation and upper wall.
Lee
The building is going on a slab, so no brick.
The door is low, so raising is counterintuitive.
The building parts are where they have to be to be proportional, and it’s definitely not coming apart. I had to remove one wall earlier on, and thankfully it was to replace it anyhow as the wall I removed ended up with a damaged edge. At this point all these joints have like 4 applications of MEK.
There’s only about one step up to the door on the residence, so I have to keep the residence low anyhow.
Not to mention, looking at a more dead-on shot of the side, the windows on the residence are just ever so slightly lower than the windows on the restaurant.
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(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46861.0;attach=35268;image)
The second floor windows line up.
There's an awning to mask the sins of the door, which is obviously lower than the bay window
There's trash cans to mask the sins of the foundation.
Excuses are for the weak. :trollface:
Now YOU can't unsee it either. :ashat:
Better modeling through peer pressure. It's the way of the a$$hat.
Lee
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Resized the image to 75% and it's good to go. Now to find enough other suitable ones...
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-04-16-13.37.27.jpg)
I liked it better in the larger format. The floor aligned better with the foreground building. Probably not as mission critical as the Szechuan Inn, but keeping the background in proportion with the foreground helps trick the eye...
Lee
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Trying out a new backdrop photo candidate. I'm thinking I'm going to have to assemble the backdrop for this from a number of sources. Obviously this is too big.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020-04-15-17.34.15.jpg)
But I like the general direction of it. Now just to find more suitable images.
Why don’t you just cut the ground off? That would make it lower, somehow the scaled down version looks weird to me.
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Why don’t you just cut the ground off? That would make it lower, somehow the scaled down version looks weird to me.
Interesting thought. Hmm.
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Love that photo background, would be very difficult to get those colors and weathering on a "flat" kit wall.
Frank
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Love that photo background, would be very difficult to get those colors and weathering on a "flat" kit wall.
But that's kind of a problem. When the flats are photo-realistic, they contrast with the foreground models, which could never compete. I've always thought modeled building flats maintain more consistency than photo building flats. But that's just me...
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But that's kind of a problem. When the flats are photo-realistic, they contrast with the foreground models, which could never compete. I've always thought modeled building flats maintain more consistency than photo building flats. But that's just me...
It's true, especially with buildings. It just means I need to up the quality of the buildings though :)
In reality, I don't have much of a choice. A distant hillside or a row of trees would look very odd in this case.
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In reality, I don't have much of a choice. A distant hillside or a row of trees would look very odd in this case.
If you need raw materials to make building flats, I know a guy...
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If you need raw materials to make building flats, I know a guy...
Haha, it's funny, I actually just passed some of the stash onto @CodyO who should post what hotness he's been up to with them!
I've actually already got some flats in place, but what I need is stuff for behind them (like this building).
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Maybe try printing them with about a 15% increase in brightness to fade it a wee bit. That would give it a little bit of distance behind the brighter 3-D flats.
Lee
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Guys. It's gonna be sitting next to Unitrack.
Hey, just what are you saying about UniTrack? :D
I still can't see the misalignment Lee is talking about, but then I have such bad Corona Virus eye strain from too much time looking at small items and video screens I may need to take up G scale modeling soon.
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Actually, I'd need two of em.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/4322316.005RohmHaas1958MaterialsShippingBldg.R9a.jpg)
Those are the "loki's" at the Rohm & Haas plant my grandfather used to work at and which serves as much of the inspiration for this endeavor.
A bit OT, but those locos remind me of this one:
https://www.ostertalbahn.de/fileadmin/_processed_/b/b/csm_332-312_ffccd29b1d.jpeg (https://www.ostertalbahn.de/fileadmin/_processed_/b/b/csm_332-312_ffccd29b1d.jpeg)
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I'm going to have to steal some of these ideas .. I'm planning on removing the blast furnace, rolling mill, and electric furnace from the M&O ... I have too many other kits that need to be built and used ..
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The question is: Who will host the next Op's session. Me, you, or Dave.
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If the walking dead don't take over, I'm game for a session as well
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I'm going to have to steal some of these ideas .. I'm planning on removing the blast furnace, rolling mill, and electric furnace from the M&O ... I have too many other kits that need to be built and used ..
Oooh! I like that idea. I always liked your inclusion of them since the M&O is large enough to do them justice, but there are so many cool industries out there (in fact I'm working on a book for the CRHS on that right now).
For example, start here and work northeast up the Delaware River: https://goo.gl/maps/wwVx8Zo9EuZ3WN8N6
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Not sure you could ever get a decoder into these simple machines, unless you did one as a trailer to hold the electronics, but you could have fun having a switchable DC/DCC siding where main line trains could drop off a cut of cars from the DCC line,
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/16/9-210420171420.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=16814)
Then use a couple of these guys right out of the box and run them on a 9 volt battery to switch inside the industrial tracks. The newest version, while still chonky girls scale wise, actually run really nicely, even through turnouts.
Lee
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Ok, while waiting for some structures to arrive from Jersey and Japan I'm moving onto another set of modules: a yard.
I'm thinking I'm gonna call this "Aramingo Ave". There was a real Aramingo Ave yard in Philly. It was a PRR "Truc Train" yard and now is where Conrail interchanges with Railserve, the contractor who switches the Advansix (but always Barrett's Chemical) in Bridesburg.
Here are some pics at the mockup phase. I'm planning on doing a third center piece that's just straight track. Buildings are all FPO.
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I have two potential things I wanted to talk through.
1. I like having a mix of through and stub tracks, but does it make sense to have the stubs facing this direction or the other? The other way is trailing point for right hand running, but this end lets me be point to point with the chemical plant which lets me use it as a drill track.
2. The crossover arrangement leading into the yard. They're currently setup like a "mainline" so trains can get into or out of it, but given the way I'd use this I'd imagine that they might be useful being the other direction so I can use the front track as another yard track. Thoughts?
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Ok, while waiting for some structures to arrive from Jersey and Japan I'm moving onto another set of modules: a yard.
I'm thinking I'm gonna call this "Aramingo Ave". There was a real Aramingo Ave yard in Philly. It was a PRR "Truc Train" yard and now is where Conrail interchanges with Railserve, the contractor who switches the Advansix (but always Barrett's Chemical) in Bridesburg.
Here are some pics at the mockup phase. I'm planning on doing a third center piece that's just straight track. Buildings are all FPO.
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I have two potential things I wanted to talk through.
1. I like having a mix of through and stub tracks, but does it make sense to have the stubs facing this direction or the other? The other way is trailing point for right hand running, but this end lets me be point to point with the chemical plant which lets me use it as a drill track.
2. The crossover arrangement leading into the yard. They're currently setup like a "mainline" so trains can get into or out of it, but given the way I'd use this I'd imagine that they might be useful being the other direction so I can use the front track as another yard track. Thoughts?
What are you trying to achieve?
Is there a prototype track arrangement that you want to replicate as closely as possible?
Will one of the yard tracks always be empty so that you can use it for a run-around track in order to access the facing point stub tracks?
Will whatever way freight that switches the stub tracks make a return trip so that it could switch the stub tracks by crossing over from the outside main track?
Try some operations with the track layout you have now and see if it seems to meet your needs and/or otherwise appeal to you.
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You could add a turnout this side of the crossover (without changing it) at the front edge, and create a p/u-s/o track opposite yard. Lots of snakey S curve switching, but that would give you your extra yard track with the added bump of creating a stop for your thru trains.
Lee
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Ok, while waiting for some structures to arrive from Jersey and Japan I'm moving onto another set of modules: a yard.
I'm thinking I'm gonna call this "Aramingo Ave". There was a real Aramingo Ave yard in Philly. It was a PRR "Truc Train" yard and now is where Conrail interchanges with Railserve, the contractor who switches the Advansix (but always Barrett's Chemical) in Bridesburg.
Here are some pics at the mockup phase. I'm planning on doing a third center piece that's just straight track. Buildings are all FPO.
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
I have two potential things I wanted to talk through.
1. I like having a mix of through and stub tracks, but does it make sense to have the stubs facing this direction or the other? The other way is trailing point for right hand running, but this end lets me be point to point with the chemical plant which lets me use it as a drill track.
2. The crossover arrangement leading into the yard. They're currently setup like a "mainline" so trains can get into or out of it, but given the way I'd use this I'd imagine that they might be useful being the other direction so I can use the front track as another yard track. Thoughts?
@Lemosteam will enjoy his prototype Gallitzin station being put to good use!
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FINALLY!!
My Slevin has arrived.
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Cool, looks almost American. Just remove the barrier/fence and put up vertical anti-ramming poles painted yellow and it would be American.
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Cool, looks almost American. Just remove the barrier/fence and put up vertical anti-ramming poles painted yellow and it would be American.
That's the plan! I'll also be redoing the base as well.
Good call on the posts though. I hadn't thought of that. Also gonna need some parking space barriers too.
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That's the plan! I'll also be redoing the base as well.
Good call on the posts though. I hadn't thought of that. Also gonna need some parking space barriers too.
Yes, that’s what I would do too, plus some signs in the windows, “Special, Coke 2L $1.25” then in smaller type, “ plus tax” for example.
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FINALLY!!
My Slevin has arrived.
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Just in time for July 11th.
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Yes, that’s what I would do too, plus some signs in the windows, “Special, Coke 2L $1.25” then in smaller type, “ plus tax” for example.
Those signs will depend on Ed's era. For instance, if this was for his 12/1985 layout, I think that's around the time that three-liter bottles of Coke were all the rage.
DFF
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I'm shooting for a wide range of time, honestly. Basically, mid 70s through mid 80s.
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Those signs will depend on Ed's era. For instance, if this was for his 12/1985 layout, I think that's around the time that three-liter bottles of Coke were all the rage.
DFF
What? 3 liter? I worked for Pepsi in the late 80’s and obviously was privy to Coke products.
Was this an East Coast thing?
That’s a big danged bottle.
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I remember seeing 3 liters in the stores. Think it was mostly off-brand stuff though.
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I remember seeing 3 liters in the stores. Think it was mostly off-brand stuff though.
Yeah I remember Shasta having 3 liter bottles in the mid 90's
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What? 3 liter? I worked for Pepsi in the late 80’s and obviously was privy to Coke products.
Was this an East Coast thing?
That’s a big danged bottle.
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Oh yeah. If you saw 3 liters of store brand soda in school you KNEW it was party time.
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Here you go Ed. Only I don’t see the yellow anti-ramming poles, just the parking curbs. Although maybe a bit too modern for your era (s)
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mmmm, big bottle of perpetual flatness.
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lol I always thought Pepsi tasted like flat Coke.
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I’ve got a vintage empty 3-liter Coke bottle somewhere around here...
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RE: 3 liters...I never saw any here in the West.
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If it was truly vintage, it would be 64 ounces, and glass...
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If it was truly vintage, it would be 64 ounces, and glass...
I remember those. Those were pretty heavy to pick up as a young kid in the early 70's. I remember one getting dropped in aisle in the supermarket..."Clean up in aisle 9"
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FINALLY!!
My Slevin has arrived.
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Funny but it appears they are being knocked off:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Outland-Models-Railway-Modern-City-Roadside-Convenience-Store-N-Scale/173427723672?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133649%26meid%3D7a95ca29ee33421095b78d3d3ec402cf%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D383582238174%26itm%3D173427723672%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2060778%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWeb%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Outland-Models-Railway-Modern-City-Roadside-Convenience-Store-N-Scale/173427723672?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133649%26meid%3D7a95ca29ee33421095b78d3d3ec402cf%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D383582238174%26itm%3D173427723672%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2060778%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWeb%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/At4AAOSw7s5XhZyd/s-l1600.jpg)
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Funny but it appears they are being knocked off:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Outland-Models-Railway-Modern-City-Roadside-Convenience-Store-N-Scale/173427723672?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133649%26meid%3D7a95ca29ee33421095b78d3d3ec402cf%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D383582238174%26itm%3D173427723672%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2060778%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWeb%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Outland-Models-Railway-Modern-City-Roadside-Convenience-Store-N-Scale/173427723672?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133649%26meid%3D7a95ca29ee33421095b78d3d3ec402cf%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D383582238174%26itm%3D173427723672%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2060778%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWeb%26brand%3DUnbranded&_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/At4AAOSw7s5XhZyd/s-l1600.jpg)
I know! I have one in my cart at the moment.
It looks really good. Especially for that price.
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Damn, Outland really stepped up their game.
Last time I saw one of their items it looked like it was made out of Lincoln logs.
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Damn, Outland really stepped up their game.
Last time I saw one of their items it looked like it was made out of Lincoln logs.
They have two different product lines, basically. The "3D Printed" stuff that looks like it came out of a Play Doh machine and their injection molded kits which are really nice.
http://conrail1285.com/cheap-n-scale-buildings-from-china/
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I’d fill those dimpled holes and file the windows square at minimum.
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I know! I have one in my cart at the moment.
It looks really good. Especially for that price.
You know -- they stole got these from here .. I think it's too big to print on a photon though
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2595991
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I’d fill those dimpled holes and file the windows square at minimum.
The ones at the top actually remind me of some rain-gutter-like holes in buildings I've seen to keep water from accumulating on the roof.
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@ChristianJDavis1 , that would be a "scupper". Feel free to add that to your vocabulary! :D
And I agree. That would be an easy detail to add to break up that big blank wall.
Lee
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@ChristianJDavis1 , that would be a "scupper". Feel free to add that to your vocabulary! :D
And I agree. That would be an easy detail to add to break up that big blank wall.
Lee
And add a little rust around the corners -- serve it up with lobster and crab ..
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4076/4923351897_b111885d66_z.jpg)
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Ah yes. The Crusty Supper.
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You know -- they stole got these from here .. I think it's too big to print on a photon though
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2595991
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Interesting!
I wonder if the other ones are on there too.
I guess there should be a new CC license "CC BY-NC-CN" that acknowledges "we know you'll do whatever you want anyway in China".
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Printed and painted up .. brown, black, blue, gray, railbrown and 2 rust shades
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/18/3-190620122105.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=18111)
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Those look really nice, John. Better than the majority of the clunky clusters out there...
Jeff
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Those look really nice, John. Better than the majority of the clunky clusters out there...
Jeff
Agreed.
But then... I like reference images, even if it's just for junk. This has been one of my favorites...
(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/railwire/junk.jpg)
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I'm just hoping everything shows up in time to work on it this weekend. I'm excited!
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I'm just hoping everything shows up in time to work on it this weekend. I'm excited!
your package of junk will be in the monday mail
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your package of junk will be in the monday mail
Beavis: "Heh, you said 'Package.'"
Butthead: "Huh-huh-huh, you said 'Junk.'"
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Beavis: "Heh, you said 'Package.'"
Butthead: "Huh-huh-huh, you said 'Junk.'"
(https://media.tenor.com/images/0f22bce27bba87e68cf0ba572f8d7c0d/tenor.gif)
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I'm making slow progress on a bunch of fronts on all this.
Today I painted the ground on the Meadow's yard modules.
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To me, that is a beautiful image.
Jeff
Agreed.
But then... I like reference images, even if it's just for junk. This has been one of my favorites...
(http://davidksmith.com/modeling/images/railwire/junk.jpg)
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Been doing stuff here and there on the modules.
Tonight I sanded down the finish on the clay paving I installed last night.
It's coming together, but slowly.
Why must I be cursed with loving urban railroading? The countryside is so much quicker and easier!
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So you can put your modules next to mine at N Scale Weekend... whenever that will be!
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/18/9-140720225820.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=18713)
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Someday...
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The countryside is so much quicker and easier!
So true!!!
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looking really good Ed
coming together very nicely
thanks for sharing
sincerely
Gary
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Someday...
You know, the requirement of 6-10' separation for social distancing lends itself to "negative space" modules... :lol:
Lee
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You know, the requirement of 6-10' separation for social distancing lends itself to "negative space" modules... :lol:
No doubt, at some train shows, you've caught wind of certain individuals who, by dint of their lack of personal hygiene, were obviously early adopters of the social distancing trend.
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Someday...
So you can put your modules next to mine at N Scale Weekend... whenever that will be!
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/18/9-140720225820.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=18713)
NEVER !
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Added some ground cover to Bridesburg tonight. It's getting there.
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That 7-11 parking lot looks about right, down to not having a curb cut for a driveway.
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That 7-11 parking lot looks about right, down to not having a curb cut for a driveway.
I mean, the funny thing is, that parking lot in real life IS a real mess!
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More progress (copied from weekend update).
I HATE this stage where you're just waiting for glue to dry and everything looks terrible.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-07-24-21.38.12.jpg)
It dried eventually though, and I'm pretty happy. This is all still largely WIP FPO stuff, but it's nice to see it coming together.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-07-25-11.52.13.jpg)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-07-26-14.03.12.jpg)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-07-26-14.05.52.jpg)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-07-26-14.06.23.jpg)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-07-26-14.08.04.jpg)
But I think it turned out ok.
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Looking good!
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(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020-07-26-14.03.12.jpg)
But I think it turned out ok.
This shot is way more than ok! Love it.
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I HATE this stage where you're just waiting for glue to dry and everything looks terrible. . . . But I think it turned out ok.
It's Philadelphia. It's supposed to look terrible. ;)
DFF
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For reference, here's one of the crossings I remember from my youth. It hasn't changed much (although the industrial buildings have been replaces with the current commercial development).
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9954775,-75.0931253,3a,34y,324.6h,86.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd3b4pCiYAlubMf0KzqOd7A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-27-10.26.21.png)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-27-10.26.05.png)
And here are a few more along that same branch.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-27-10.29.08.png)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-27-10.27.48.png)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-27-10.27.16.png)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-27-10.27.01.png)
And then a bit closer to the river.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-27-10.32.29.png)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-27-10.32.16.png)
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It's Philadelphia. It's supposed to look terrible. ;)
DFF
Your mom.
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Love the proto photos. Hope you model that knocked over stop sign!
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Love the proto photos. Hope you model that knocked over stop sign!
And the Porsche Panamera.
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I HATE this stage where you're just waiting for glue to dry and everything looks terrible.
Don't forget the fan trick. Just place a fan nearby that blows gently on the wet stuff. It'll dry in a fraction of the time.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-27-10.32.29.png)
Oh, look, tires just stacked on the sidewalk... :?
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(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-27-10.32.29.png)
Oh, look, tires just stacked on the sidewalk... :?
They look more like small o-rings or slices of insulation from A/V cable.
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And the Porsche Panamera.
Right? I don't remember seeing many of those around when I was growing up around there in the 80s.
Don't forget the fan trick. Just place a fan nearby that blows gently on the wet stuff. It'll dry in a fraction of the time.
Yep. It worries me about blowing anything around but I've got one there that even has a built in timer. I should use that.
Oh, look, tires just stacked on the sidewalk... :?
Haha, yep. There's a city waste collection point down the street. I'm thinking those might've been "rejected" and quickly disposed of. That road is well known for its collection of refuse. In fact, I vividly remember that entire street being COVERED in trash bags during a garbage strike at some point.
They look more like small o-rings or slices of insulation from A/V cable.
Thank god!
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They look more like small o-rings or slices of insulation from A/V cable.
Someone just did a pit-stop with their dually. Nbd.
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Someone just did a pit-stop with their dually. Nbd.
Hahhahahahaha
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Ed,
Recommend paying close attention to the tie color variation in this photo:
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-27-10.32.16.png)
You want to kick that Unitrack up a notch? There's how.
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Ed,
Recommend paying close attention to the tie color variation in this photo:
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-27-10.32.16.png)
You want to kick that Unitrack up a notch? There's how.
Yes. Excellent idea.
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Recommend paying close attention to the tie color variation in this photo:
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Screenshot-2020-07-27-10.32.16.png)
You want to kick that Unitrack up a notch? There's how.
But, how to get the tops of the rails rust colored yet still have them conduct electricity?
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This weekend I kitbashed a house for Bridesburg.
In this case I took inspiration from all of the houses around when I was growing up including the porch and "budka" (the shed) from my grandparents place and the awning from my great-grandparents place.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-08-16-19.08.35.jpg)
I remember hanging out on that porch with my great-grandmother watching the world go by as a kid, and I can only imagine how I would've turned out if I had had the view that this house has.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-08-16-19.09.52.jpg)
Here's how it fits into the scene.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-08-16-19.10.11.jpg)
It is a combination of the front walls from IHC colonials and the side walls cut down from IHC storefront walls.
I still have some details to add, including various meters, gutters, porch furniture, and of course the requisite Polish flag on the porch, but I'm happy with the progress.
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So here's something that changes everything (ok, not really):
Was just talking to my dad and he mentioned that my grandfather said that the Reading guys were nicer than the Pennsy crews. Hol up.
Yep. I forgot, the Philadelphia Belt was a joint operation that any railroad in town could use. I had FORGOTTEN about that and didn't realize that the Reading actually did.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Belt_Line_Railroad
So I just got a much better justification for running Reading and Chessie stuff on it.
I had been planning on using my other Reading SW1200 mech under my 1001 but now I'm not so sure. Hmm.
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I photoshopped a bunch of Google Streetview images together and voila!
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-08-18-15.02.48.jpg)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-08-18-15.02.21.jpg)
Do they stand up to INTENSE scrutiny? Eh, not so much.
But do they make the background disappear? Absolutely.
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The background photos look great! Any pointers about the paper and finish you used? I have a few roads that will need that treatment at the backdrop.
Frank
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That's just regular old paper on my inkjet.
I think I'll find a poster print place for it for real, but this proved that the image is good.
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That's just regular old paper on my inkjet.
I think I'll find a poster print place for it for real, but this proved that the image is good.
Try printing it on glossy photo paper.
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I'd think matte paper would be best.
You could try cutting out the doors and windows and paste it to another copy with windows for some 3D.
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I'd think matte paper would be best.
You could try cutting out the doors and windows and paste it to another copy with windows for some 3D.
Why not go a touch further, cut and mount some of the foreground buildings on thin posterboard. Would probably add just a tiny bit of pop. but I've never done anything similar before.
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Wait, guys, where do you think the background starts?
There really isn't anything that should have any relief to it.
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Wait, guys, where do you think the background starts?
There really isn't anything that should have any relief to it.
Behind the apartment and 7-11 building/ parking lot.
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Behind the apartment and 7-11 building/ parking lot.
Ok, yes.
I don't think they'll be good candidates, honestly.
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Ok, yes.
I don't think they'll be good candidates, honestly.
I'm sure the background scene looks different in person than it does in the above photos, so it's kind of hard for us here to judge. Given that, from the photos you posted I think it looks quite good. The background buildings look like they kind of fade into the distance and loose focus the closer to the horizon they get, just as in real life until you really focus on objects in the distance. To be honest I wouldn't think you'd want the backdrop to be to...er dramatic?/sharply focused, as that would draw the eye away from the foreground.
Just my $.02
Scott
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I photoshopped a bunch of Google Streetview images together and voila!
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-08-18-15.02.48.jpg)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-08-18-15.02.21.jpg)
Do they stand up to INTENSE scrutiny? Eh, not so much.
But do they make the background disappear? Absolutely.
Those must have been some damn polite and orderly looters to take everything off the shelves of that 7-11 and not smash anything or break any windows. Then things went to hell when the Hookers showed up. :)
Don't mess with the background, but you do need to add some interior details inside that 7-11. Do that, and that would be an amazingly realistic scene, like damn hard to tell from reality.
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So I decided to throw in a little easter egg on the backdrop.
Growing up I always heard my family talking about "the taproom".
My great great grandparents owned a bar in Bridesburg. That bar is writ large across my family's history and I had been looking for a way to work it in.
Well, it turns out that the corner it was actually on was PERFECT for the backdrop photo. However, I realized I could go one step further.
I've changed the "Everyday Cafe" sign from the actual photo to make it represent the building's former life as Moskal's Cafe where people came from far around for their seafood lunch specials (and I'm sure a nice cold Schmidts).
This will be included in the final print I use.
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Ok, so this weekend saw work on two fronts: the Ferko String Band building and the tire dump.
The tire dump has been going on for a while but is coming along. I need to make MANY more tires.
See https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=49938.msg677786#msg677786
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-08-22-10.27.17.jpg)
And the Ferko building. It started out as the classic Ramsey Journal kit that has had some modifications done, including a much more plain facade and conversion of the old timey windows into modern double hung versions (something that I've now done two weekends in a row).
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-08-23-18.31.57.jpg)
Like most things on these modules, it's far from exact, but I think it captures the flavor of the real thing enough for me. There may still be more detailing in store for it, however. We'll see.
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Screen-Shot-2020-08-23-at-10.23.43-PM.png)
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I like the concept and your execution of the tyre dump.. Nice work.
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That train store looks familiar.
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That train store looks familiar.
Right? I consider it the "wishful thinking" addition to the module. There was no train store in Bridesburg.
In other news, in case anyone is curious about the tire fire references: https://billypenn.com/2018/07/13/two-decades-ago-10000-tires-caught-fire-in-port-richmond-and-melted-part-of-i-95/
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I'm surprised the Christmas wreaths have stayed put.
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I'm surprised the Christmas wreaths have stayed put.
Haha, at this point they just look like plants though.
In other news. I dullcoted 8905. Here she is back at work:
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-08-24-20.31.48.jpg)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-08-24-20.32.30.jpg)
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Thank you @Philip H !
It may say BN now but it'll soon say "Philadelphia Tire Disposal Co".
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2020-09-01-14.39.24.jpg)
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Looks like a lot of tire stacking going on, but not much disposing.
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Your treatment of the Unitrak is beyond admirable. Very nicely done.
Lee
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You need a Cadillac with the trunk popped and a guy leaning into it. Don't know why, but you need it.
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In other news. I dullcoted 8905. Here she is back at work:
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-08-24-20.31.48.jpg)
(http://conrail1285.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020-08-24-20.32.30.jpg)
Nice to see that ex-Peoria & Eastern unit still earning its keep.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49980086726_3474289c79_b.jpg)
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Ed...wow, that tire dump looks so real!
you certainly nailed that along with the rest of the module
really captured the NE Philly character
great job
sincerely
Gary
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Nice to see that ex-Peoria & Eastern unit still earning its keep.
Funny, the real one did too this weekend. The B&O museum's WM F unit failed during an event and the 8905 had to come to the rescue.
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Ed...wow, that tire dump looks so real!
you certainly nailed that along with the rest of the module
really captured the NE Philly character
great job
sincerely
Gary
Thank you!!!
There's so much more to come too.
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I'm surprised the Christmas wreaths have stayed put.
You should move them to one of the rowhouses. Having grown up in one, I can tell you there's always that one guy in the neighborhood who never takes down his Christmas lights...
Lee
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Your treatment of the Unitrak is beyond admirable. Very nicely done.
Lee
Thanks!
The secret: hide it! haha
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Wait, thats unitrak? Dang. Thats awesome.
J
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Wait, thats unitrak? Dang. Thats awesome.
J
Yep. Under a layer of paint, grout and grass.
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Curbs added to sidewalks and everything has been painted. Gotta plant them so they don't look like they're hovering, but I'm pretty happy.
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The backscene needs to move vertically upwards. The sidewalk is almost at the second story! Its quite distracting. Otherwise, excellent scene!
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Agreed. You could also consider forcing the perspective by tapering the road and sidewalks just ever so to help the transition to the photo be less jarring.
It's always tricky to get that just right because your viewing angle will always be off a little. But you can make it work better with a few tweeks.
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/19/9-040920195759.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=19892)
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coming together very nicely, Ed
those sidewalk add some much realism
the neighborhood really has that Philly NE feel
and, yes, you do such excellent work with the unitrack
the ballast, the vegetation, the detail
all so finely done
sincerely
Gary
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Ok. Photo interior done.
And yes, that's a whole row of Tastykakes.
[attachimg=1][attachimg=2]
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Put the shop owner from the Simpsons behind the counter.
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Put the shop owner from the Simpsons behind the counter.
Apu.
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Apu.
Gesundheit !
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Thank you, come again !
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Hmmm! Tastykakes butterscotch krimpets and peanut butter kandy kakes :D
How about some 7-11 beef & bean burritos and big gulps?
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Put the shop owner from the Simpsons behind the counter.
Absolutely not. I work with far too many great folks from India to include that problematic stereotype.
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Hmmm! Tastykakes butterscotch krimpets and peanut butter kandy kakes :D
How about some 7-11 beef & bean burritos and big gulps?
*****. How could I forget the burritos and soda fountain? I guess I'm not as done as I thought. lol.
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One word I've yet to see mentioned. SLURPEE
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Those take place behind the building.
Oh wait. You're talking about the one that only costs a dollar.... :trollface:
Lee
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One word I've yet to see mentioned. SLURPEE
You know you're 100% correct. It's funny, I had actually planned a photo of the power sitting at the crossing while the crew went for Slurpees before returning to the yard in the WPFJ-41 story but somehow forgot to take the photo.
Does anyone know when Slurpees went from being dispensed by the clerk to being self-serve? I know it happened at some point, and I'm guessing that point was after the Simpsons started (hence after my modeling era), but I'd love some verification before deciding where to put the machines in the store.
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I may be wrong, but I remember getting self-serve Slurpees back in the 70s. Plastic cups with baseball players printed on them as I recall. You had a choice between Mystery Fruit Red and Frozen Coke. Mystery fruit Blue came later, followed still later by the 4 spout machines we enjoy now, you know.. the one that has three flavors working, and the one that you wanted a runny mess.
The signature element of pouring your own was the inevitable over-topping that led to a legion of flies following you home while you tried to wipe it off with your shirt sleeve.
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https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/man-leaves-a-franchised-7eleven-store-past-cigarette-ads-posted-on-picture-id53365120
You can't forget the big advertising banner above the door, either.
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Does anyone know when Slurpees went from being dispensed by the clerk to being self-serve? I know it happened at some point, and I'm guessing that point was after the Simpsons started (hence after my modeling era), but I'd love some verification before deciding where to put the machines in the store.
Mid-1980s.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1991-12-05-9102200380-story.html
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Mid-1980s.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1991-12-05-9102200380-story.html
Ah, dammit! I spent 10 minutes googling slurpee history to no avail. And there it was. Thank you!
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/man-leaves-a-franchised-7eleven-store-past-cigarette-ads-posted-on-picture-id53365120
You can't forget the big advertising banner above the door, either.
I know. I was thinking about what a good one would be. Gotta be period appropriate though.
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Perhaps something promoting Winstons for $2.75 a pack... Sort of like those transition era layouts with gas prices around $.28/gallon.
Nothing says the passage of time like inflation!
Lee
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I was thinking about what a good one would be. Gotta be period appropriate though.
Here ya go (the signs weren't very exciting in the 70s):
(https://clickamericana.com/wp-content/uploads/See-old-7-Eleven-stores-from-197-8-750x594.jpg)
(https://clickamericana.com/wp-content/uploads/Old-7-11-convenience-stores-from-197-2-750x1364.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/6064/6120929430_877ac374a0_b.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4b/1c/1b/4b1c1beb16ff76728bc2b9eeff7efe11.jpg)
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This thread will be deteriorating to 7th grade humor in 5....4....3....2....
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Here ya go (the signs weren't very exciting in the 70s):
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4b/1c/1b/4b1c1beb16ff76728bc2b9eeff7efe11.jpg)
Nice jugs! Hehehehehe.
Love the Farrah Fawcett hair too.
To be fair, that photo must have been taken on purpose - just for comments like mine. :P
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This thread will be deteriorating to 7th grade humor in 5....4....3....2....
Nailed it...
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You sure they weren't picking up a pack of Camels? :scared: :facepalm: :trollface: :ashat: :o
The Unknown Comic...
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To be fair, that photo must have been taken on purpose - just for comments like mine. :P
I did post it knowing full well it would give rise (ahem) to some commentary.
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*****. How could I forget the burritos and soda fountain? I guess I'm not as done as I thought. lol.
Is the Slurpee machine in there?
DFF
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Ok, more developments on other fronts. Terri has really gotten into a show that I have no time for so it's made me very productive modeling wise this week!
First, aside from some light weathering, I think the Philadelphia Tire Disposal Co's truck is done. That tire load is a light layer of them on top of a carved black foamcore core. I made it by cutting out the core to the size of the bed, then trimming back the foam itself so there was a layer of black paper on the bottom. Then I used the hole in the foamcore that I cut it out from as a mold, into which I put some plastic cling film and then the core. I splooshed in some black paint and glue and then piled in some tires. After a day of drying I realized the tires weren't sticking enough so I tried flowing in a white glue and water mix. That took forever to dry and still wasn't enough, so I came back again with some straight white glue which I poured over it, and then hit with a mist of some water until I saw it soak in. A few more days of drying later and it was all able to be safely removed from the mold and placed into the truck. It wasn't a lot of work but it did take a week to complete. I think it was worth it though!
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Next up I've been playing with photo backdrops for Rohm and Haas. I think you might've read the thread elsewhere. I don't need a huge background, but I needed something to fill in between buildings that just looks "old chemical planty". The thread about where you lived got me thinking about using the old Google Streetview trick to use the view into the Allied Chemical plant at the end of my old street as just the thing. So I did!
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That photo started off with this spot: https://goo.gl/maps/3N1Wgmg3j1tvoGV5A
I then used the iStreetView downloader and website to download the full high-res panorama: https://istreetview.com/ngjThsvZJdwpKVyPbVfZaw
Next I fired up Photoshop and cropped out everything I didn't care about. I then mirrored and modified the rest of it to fill up a bit more space. It took two different prints to get the sizing right but I'm reasonably happy with it. It's not high-fidelity, but I think it strikes the right balance of making your brain go "oh, there's more stuff there" without overwhelming it and making it think too much about continuity or anything by focusing on it.
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And while I had the 8512 out, why not shoot a roster shot for good measure?
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Really solid results. You're hitting it out of the park!
Lee
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Ok, it's only been a little over 3 years since I've shared anything about this project.
It's been largely boxed up and occasionally appearing at shows, but I'll be breaking it out for the upcoming Timonium show so I decided it was time to do a little freshening up.
The first thing I needed to do was fix the backdrop. Wow. What a huge difference.
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