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General Discussion => N and Z Scales => Topic started by: sirenwerks on March 30, 2016, 04:34:29 PM

Title: Atlas's EL Evans gon
Post by: sirenwerks on March 30, 2016, 04:34:29 PM
I'm a little confused.  Atlas's narrative for the Evans 52'6" gondola reads "Southern Iron and Equipment Company (SIECO) of Atlanta, Georgia, began manufacturing gondolas in the mid-1970s..." but the EL car it recently released has a 4-71 build date.  Were the Evans cars constructed prior to the mid-70s (i.e. Atlas defines "mid-70s loosely) or is the EL model (numbered in the 44400-44500 range) a stand-in for another car?
Title: Re: Atlas's EL Evans gon
Post by: wcfn100 on March 30, 2016, 04:49:06 PM
Stand-in.

(http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/44466.jpg)

(http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/NFreightCars/nevansgondola/0714/50001911_TQ.jpg)

Jason
Title: Re: Atlas's EL Evans gon
Post by: mu26aeh on March 30, 2016, 04:55:13 PM
Paging @R L Smith ,  We have a EL question for you  :D
Title: Re: Atlas's EL Evans gon
Post by: lock4244 on March 30, 2016, 04:57:36 PM
Is anything 'wrong' when you put EL on it?
Title: Re: Atlas's EL Evans gon
Post by: Spikre on March 30, 2016, 05:18:20 PM
 :|
   these are likely stand ins for the late P-S Gons
  that EL had.
   but once one goes to Foooooobieville,one can
  never go back.
     Spikre
      :o
Title: Re: Atlas's EL Evans gon
Post by: crrcoal on March 30, 2016, 06:44:52 PM
Sometimes you gotta do what ya gotta do......

:|
   these are likely stand ins for the late P-S Gons
  that EL had.
   but once one goes to Foooooobieville,one can
  never go back.
     Spikre
      :o
Title: Re: Atlas's EL Evans gon
Post by: R L Smith on March 30, 2016, 10:31:36 PM
Paging @R L Smith ,  We have a EL question for you  :D

Ha!  I'm on travel so I'll have to do the research when I get back home later this week.  However, I think Jason and spikre already answered the mail...

Meanwhile, I'm in Denver with no opportunity to check out Caboose Hobbies...  :RUEffinKiddingMe:

Title: Re: Atlas's EL Evans gon
Post by: ai5629 on March 30, 2016, 10:52:27 PM
They are stand ins for the PS built EL cars as others have stated.  The PS cars are riveted 13 panel cars, have grab irons on the left side, tow rings on the bottom of car side sheet and PS style ends.  The Evans cars are welded 13 panel cars, have a short ladder on the left side, a pulling pocket cut into the side if the car, slightly different ends and braces on those ends.  I believe the length, width and height are almost identical.  I do not see the PS prototype being produced any time soon, so this is the best we will get.  I initially ignored these as they are not completely accurate, but I have had second thoughts.  I bought three of the four road numbers, and I will most likely modify them by replacing the left side ladders with grab irons and filling in the pulling pockets.  I may also add larger stirrups and a miner brake wheel.  Since the cars are black, should be easy to paint match them.  Many EL cars in this series lasted well into the 80's in original paint on Conrail, so they will be right at home on my CR pike.  I am also considering painting and decalling some Conrail GE52H versions of these cars with the same modifications.  I need 100 ton Conrail gondolas and this appears to be the best option to get them.  Thank you.

Jeff
Title: Re: Atlas's EL Evans gon
Post by: SecretWeapon on March 31, 2016, 11:28:32 AM
Is anything 'wrong' when you put EL on it?

we'll find out soon. that U-23 they're coming out with is fantasy engine.
Title: Re: Atlas's EL Evans gon
Post by: Spikre on April 01, 2016, 03:02:14 PM
 :|
  the EL U23Bs were actually started by GE when the USRA canned the
 order.
  so they are an "Almost Was" and were built and delivered to L&N,but
  with FB-2 Trucks instead of Type B that EL would have used.
  the GP38-2 order was canned before EMD started any Assembly,so they
  don't seem to have been built,just the order papers were torn up or binned.
      Spikre
           :(