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General Discussion => N and Z Scales => Topic started by: delamaize on January 16, 2012, 03:15:48 AM

Title: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: delamaize on January 16, 2012, 03:15:48 AM
Sooo....I have been causing a ruckus over on trainboard about the New, Yet to be announced Next passenger train set, I have been asked to keep it hush hush......But...... :trollface:

PM me if you wanna know, I get my information from reliable sources. Us PNW modelers should find a home for this one, Pud, you'll be intrested in some of the new cars, assuming they do they model the years I think they are going to.
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Sokramiketes on January 16, 2012, 08:02:50 AM
The Milwaukee Road Olympian is hardly a secret at this point.
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: daniel_leavitt2000 on January 16, 2012, 09:52:34 AM
Its a good time to be a mid west modeler.
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: ljudice on January 16, 2012, 09:55:07 AM
The Milwaukee Road Olympian is hardly a secret at this point.

You must have incorrect information... It's confirmed to be the 1969 Broadway Limited - with factory weathering,  cold snack bar, broken air conditioning and on board muggers.  The dusty PC GG1's and E8's offered with the train have a new feature "Realistic Breakdown" - they randomly just stop dead on the track until you complete a puzzle on the Road Foreman of Engines APP which is supplied for IOS or Android devices.

Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Sokramiketes on January 16, 2012, 09:55:18 AM
Its a good time to be a mid west modeler.

And with so many midwest modelers, it's a good time to manufacture midwest stuff too!   :trollface:
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Puddington on January 16, 2012, 10:04:08 AM
It's the Polar Express with a 1:160 Tom Hanks figure.............
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Sokramiketes on January 16, 2012, 10:07:01 AM
You must have incorrect information... It's confirmed to be the 1969 Broadway Limited - with factory weathering,  cold snack bar, broken air conditioning and on board muggers.

You never know when the Olympian will get pushed back again, but at this point it's the worst kept secret in N scale. 

The best was the recent published question in the Milwaukee Railroader along the lines of, "I'm helping gather information for a major manufacturer doing the Olympian in N scale and am looking for Touralux sleeper drawings and photos."  I don't think that was supposed to go to the public Q&A pages in the Historical Societies publication...  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: ljudice on January 16, 2012, 10:12:58 AM
Seriously that's great news - a cool train!  Milwaukee Road modelers are among the luckiest out there!

Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: lashedup on January 16, 2012, 10:51:28 AM
With Little Joe power as well...

Can't wait. Now we just need FVM to do the twin-cities version.

Hopefully Kato does a North Coast Limited at some point.

- jamie
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Mark5 on January 16, 2012, 10:55:15 AM
Heard its the 1911 version ...  :P
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: conrail98 on January 16, 2012, 03:08:01 PM
It's the Polar Express with a 1:160 Tom Hanks figure.............

You have no idea how much that offering would help me in the layout building department,

Phil
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Nato on January 17, 2012, 12:22:28 PM
 :|    Are we talking about the Streamlined "Olympian Hiawatha",the heavyweight train which was named the "Olympian",there was also the "Columbian",originally heavyweight later a mix of cars. And then there was in 1947 the "Olympian Hiawatha"which begs to be modeled,devivery delays of the lightweight sleepers and Sky Top obs cars resulted in a train that was partially lightweight equipment,but with HW sleepers and open platform obs car. Kato should just get the Brass model train that came out a few years back and the add on "Super Dome" car to get details and leingth's etc. Nate Goodman(Nato). "Who was hoping it was a two tone green NP NCL. W-a-a-a!"I already have a brass Oly Hi."
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Sokramiketes on January 17, 2012, 03:47:25 PM
:|    Are we talking about the Streamlined "Olympian Hiawatha",the heavyweight train which was named the "Olympian",there was also the "Columbian",originally heavyweight later a mix of cars. And then there was in 1947 the "Olympian Hiawatha"which begs to be modeled,devivery delays of the lightweight sleepers and Sky Top obs cars resulted in a train that was partially lightweight equipment,but with HW sleepers and open platform obs car. Kato should just get the Brass model train that came out a few years back and the add on "Super Dome" car to get details and leingth's etc. Nate Goodman(Nato). "Who was hoping it was a two tone green NP NCL. W-a-a-a!"I already have a brass Oly Hi."

This is a rhetorical question, right? 
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: mcjaco on January 17, 2012, 05:14:58 PM
This is a rhetorical question, right?

I'm not sure I even follow.

Que?
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Sokramiketes on January 18, 2012, 12:05:03 AM
When you sober up it will make sense.  Nato is asking if it's the streamlined version with skytop and superdome or a prior heavyweight version.  Since it's obvious which one of those would actually sell, I think it's a rhetorical question.   ;)
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: up1950s on January 18, 2012, 12:47:51 AM
So if they do HW's in Milw it's a good bet UP HW's will come some day ( I hope ) . The Lil Joes didn't come till 1919 IIRC but they pulled that train . In lies the question , will Kato have a loco to go with it . If so will it be the FVM  4-4-2 , or something new from Kato ? I would buy a Milw elec in a heart beat .
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Dave Schneider on January 18, 2012, 01:29:41 AM
So if they do HW's in Milw it's a good bet UP HW's will come some day ( I hope ) . The Lil Joes didn't come till 1919 IIRC but they pulled that train . In lies the question , will Kato have a loco to go with it . If so will it be the FVM  4-4-2 , or something new from Kato ? I would buy a Milw elec in a heart beat .

Richie, I suspect you are thinking of the Bipolar electrics, which went into service in 1919. The 20 Little Joes (as in Stalin), were ordered in 1946 by the USSR, but their export was banned by the State Department in 1948. The  Milwaukee Road Road got 12, the South Shore Line got 3, and 5 went to Brasil. I would be in for this train set, even though I don't need one. When you see the price that Superdomes and Skytops go for in brass on eBay, you start to believe that this would be a successful model. The Little Joe would be cool, again, even though I don't need one.

Best wishes, Dave
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: up1950s on January 18, 2012, 03:46:49 AM
Richie, I suspect you are thinking of the Bipolar electrics, which went into service in 1919. The 20 Little Joes (as in Stalin), were ordered in 1946 by the USSR, but their export was banned by the State Department in 1948. The  Milwaukee Road Road got 12, the South Shore Line got 3, and 5 went to Brasil. I would be in for this train set, even though I don't need one. When you see the price that Superdomes and Skytops go for in brass on eBay, you start to believe that this would be a successful model. The Little Joe would be cool, again, even though I don't need one.

Best wishes, Dave

Thanks for that correction Dave , my bad . :oops:
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Dave Schneider on January 18, 2012, 03:05:55 PM
Richie....didn't mean to make you blush! Sorry if it came across that way.

Best wishes, Dave
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: up1950s on January 19, 2012, 12:33:58 AM
Richie....didn't mean to make you blush! Sorry if it came across that way.

Best wishes, Dave

Not at all , if the collective didn't correct its self it wouldn't be worth having one , reading it , and posting to it .
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: mcjaco on January 19, 2012, 10:04:51 AM
When you sober up it will make sense.  Nato is asking if it's the streamlined version with skytop and superdome or a prior heavyweight version.  Since it's obvious which one of those would actually sell, I think it's a rhetorical question.   ;)

Either version would make many us drink.   :P
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Puddington on January 19, 2012, 10:50:33 AM
Great...fine....do the Hiawatha with the skytop lounges and the superdomes...I'll buy one....but for the love of the maple leaf sell those cars separately for us canucks that want to model CN's Ocean and Super Continental.....oh, silly me, it's Kato..... nevermind....
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: skytop35 on January 19, 2012, 12:27:49 PM
Great...fine....do the Hiawatha with the skytop lounges and the superdomes...I'll buy one....but for the love of the maple leaf sell those cars separately for us canucks that want to model CN's Ocean and Super Continental.....oh, silly me, it's Kato..... nevermind....

Mike, Kato usually sells parts to make a complete car sometime after they release a set. You'll have to act fast as those cars sell out in days. Super dome and skytop maybe maybe in hours.
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Puddington on January 19, 2012, 12:49:25 PM
Mike, Kato usually sells parts to make a complete car sometime after they release a set. You'll have to act fast as those cars sell out in days. Super dome and skytop maybe maybe in hours.

Never once did it work for me before... maybe, like waiting for McCartney tickets I'll have to pull out the sleeping bag and lawn chair....? :facepalm:
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Bob Bufkin on January 19, 2012, 02:02:20 PM
Kato usually offers a 4 car add on set.  With any luck, they may be the cars you need. 
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: wm3798 on January 20, 2012, 12:01:47 AM
I'd still rather see the Cincinattian...
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: SkipGear on January 20, 2012, 12:27:10 AM
I'd still rather see the Cincinattian...

I need to get mine done first, then they will make it....

(http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/1293/CincinnatianP7d_with_Tender.jpg)
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Dave Schneider on January 20, 2012, 01:08:58 AM
I need to get mine done first, then they will make it....

(http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/data/1293/CincinnatianP7d_with_Tender.jpg)

FYI....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/N-Scale-B-O-Baltimore-Ohio-Key-Imports-Brass-P7d-Cincinnatian-Mint-/110809431069?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item19ccc1bc1d#ht_500wt_1378

Best wishes, Dave
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: Nato on January 21, 2012, 02:15:35 AM
 :|   The locomotive may not be electric although Bi-Polars would be nice. A more likely canidate would be FM Erie Buiilt's which had fancy chrome nose trim.These powered the train all the way thru to Seattle/Tacoma at first running through both electric zones. They ran on the mixed heavyweight and lightweight consist which became all lightweight later. With in about a year if I recall correctly they stopped running through,modernized box cabs with a European look were then used on the Rocky Mt. Division and the Bi-Polars on the Coast Division. Kato does not always do add on sets. Their City Of Los Angeles like the CZ has no add on cars (needed) and some original sets were done as aix and four car sets. Nate Goodman (Nato).
Title: Re: Kato's next Passenger train....
Post by: CBQ Fan on January 21, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
FM Erie Buiilt's would really be cool!  I am fine either way, electric or FM Erie Buiilt's.