TheRailwire
General Discussion => N and Z Scales => Topic started by: Pomperaugrr on July 26, 2012, 04:15:08 PM
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It looks like my dream and my wallet's nightmare are going to come true. I need a ton of these for my Specialty Minerals, Fairfield Processing and Sheffield Plastics plants! I had better start saving now!!! :D
http://www.shapeways.com/model/644188/n-scale-42-dry-bulk-trailer-2-pack.html (http://www.shapeways.com/model/644188/n-scale-42-dry-bulk-trailer-2-pack.html)
Eric
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Eric I have my doubts that a design that complex will look good from shapeways. I really wish we could get some of these creat designs and send them to the guy that Bryan uses. They seem much more competant.
I have been burned on every shapeways product I have purchased including:
Items undeliverable.
Items unproducable even though they passed their requirments.
products have a rough, thatched surface as bad, and in some cases worse than MakeMyModel.
Parts mal formed, missing, warped etc.
Different part than what was ordered.
The theory is much better than in real life. Until they figure out just how to build these models correctly, all the best designs in the world will look like ball of hairy wax.
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Looks
like I will be adding a plastics loadout track...
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I've had pretty good success with some of the Shapeways parts- none of the missing or mixed up business.
These trailers look really nice, some of the fine details might need to get replaced and the body smoothed, but it fills a gap and I'd like one when they become available.
More n-scale glory! Take that bigger scales :ashat:
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They are available now, but who is going to be the first to drop $36 for the pair??? :o
http://www.shapeways.com/model/644930/n-scale-42-dry-bulk-trailer-2-pack-kit.html
Brian
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I wouldn't even think of buying those until you can find a clear photo of actual painted models. 3D drawn images are perfect and shouldn't be used to show you what you are buying.
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I wouldn't even think of buying those until you can find a clear photo of actual painted models. 3D drawn images are perfect and shouldn't be used to show you what you are buying.
Precisely. I could probably turn out a reasonable looking image in Wings. Implying that image is what you are actually buying is deceptive, at best.
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Well, considering all the discussion on Trainboard about his other stuff (where he's a regular member as Mark Watson BTW), I might just do it. His stage coaches and old time cars turned out really well, and there are copious pics to prove it. I would expect he'd have some of this after initial production too.
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I just pulled the trigger and ordered two sets. I do need these and even if they are not foreground quality, they will fit a need for my industries. Time will tell.
Eric
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It's not the designers fault. The 3D model is perfect and it just doesn't look like that when printed out. From what I've seen model with things like thin railings or ladders turn out worse than solid objects. A lot of the smaller parts will either by broken off when you open the package or they will break when you accidentally breath on the model. It's just how shapeways and FUD is.
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Good point, but since these will be in signature scenes which absolutely need dry bulk trailers, and there are no other N scale alternatives, even yard loaves are better than no trailers at all at this point. I don't have time to try to scratchbuild these. I can always keep these in the background if better alternatives come out eventually.
I will eventually need about 24 dry bulk trailers to finish the scenes I have planned. That provides ample opportunity for other manufacturers to fill this void. The four I'll get from the two Shapeways kits will be a decent start for now, even if they need some work. I'm willing to take the gamble and see what I get, before I pass judgment. It might be a $78.50 mistake, but I'll chance it.
Eric
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You might be the first to post good photos.
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Thanks for the vote of confidence...but I'm not holding my breath and don't have high expectations. I have not made any train related purchases in a while, so i figure, it is only money, right??? Well money and being publicly humiliated for spending that much on sight unseen models. Time will tell. :|
Eric
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I could go take a photo of my wasted money :facepalm:
I bought some Nn3 steel hoppers and parts were broke when I opened the box. Then I soaked them and even more parts fell off. Stuff like way over sized stirrups were gone. They are still sitting in the container awaiting transport to the trash.
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$36... sight unseen... That's about the same as a meal and a glass of wine for me and the Mrs. at a restaurant we've never tried before. Maybe the food is good and maybe... not so much. Maybe the wine is excellent or maybe I'll bring it home to strip some paint off that damn Kato shell. We don't seem to have a problem with that gamble at all and we do it quite often. I'll be ordering some too... maybe even post a review like a food critic.
Mike Maisonneuve
Modeling the Northern Alberta Railways' Peace River subdivision in N scale.
http://nscalenar.blogspot.ca/
(http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s506/NARmike/n_a.jpg)
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I worked on those type trailers for many years, love to have some for the newly released Medusa Cement, but I`ll wait for a few pics..they would be perfect with the Athearn R Model Mack.
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I ordered Mark's Ventilated Boxcars, and those rock.
I also was the guinea pig for his steam donkey crane: a lot of great detail & it looks awesome.
Some of the finer rods broke in transit, partly due to being very thin, partly because of the packaging Shapeways used (inflated small pillows).
I talked to Mark and he redesigned it to hold up better (added some support spars that you can cut away), and, since he designed the trailers after that, I'm assuming he applied the same idea to these (though these don't seem to have nearly as many of the more fragile-looking parts as the steam donkey).
I also talked to the Dutch crew about the packing material issues, and they seemed very receptive (and helpful: they refunded my money and let me keep the model), so hopefully things are packed better now in less oppressive pillows.
The small round boiler with very thin pipes on the steam donkey came out great, so I don't see why the larger trailers wouldn't.
Will be interesting to see, whenever someone gets them (they're about 60 years too late for my layout ;) )
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This is a unique and much needed model. Glad someone came out with it. Hope it works out. Unfortunately, I need the older version.
Funny how these days $36 seems like so much money.
Frank
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.......................................................... newly released Medusa Cement.................................................................
Did I miss something? I have not heard of this!!!
Jon
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Did I miss something? I have not heard of this!!!
Jon
That retailer in Baltimore just got a restock according to their website
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Well, sure enough, I was contacted by Shapeways. I was told that these cannot be printed as designed. I am getting a full refund.
I will say that communication with the folks at Shapeways was great and there was no problem getting the refund. I just can't figure out why they would take orders without at least doing one pre-production run.
Oh well. :facepalm:
Eric
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Sad
day even with an Atlas S2 announced today. I had far more use for this model...
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I heard from Mark Watson, who designed the trailers. Some of the parts were too thin as designed. He has refined the specifications and they should be able to go into production. At this point, I will wait for Mark's photos of the actual model before ordering.
I have to emphasize how good the communication was with Shapeways. I still have high hopes for these trailers.
Eric
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Sorry to all for the "resurrection" of this thread...
Eric (or anyone else); Have you heard any updates on these trailers? Are they being redesigned or is this a dead end product?
Mike Maisonneuve
Modeling the Northern Alberta Railways' Peace River subdivision in N scale
http://nscalenar.blogspot.ca/
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Sorry to all for the "resurrection" of this thread...
Eric (or anyone else); Have you heard any updates on these trailers? Are they being redesigned or is this a dead end product?
Mike Maisonneuve
Modeling the Northern Alberta Railways' Peace River subdivision in N scale
http://nscalenar.blogspot.ca/
Mark Watson got back to me. He has redesigned the artwork (ladder thickness issue) and should be getting a delivery of production sample in the next couple of weeks. I really want to see a photo of it before I order again.
Eric
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Despite my shoddy painting...
(http://i.imgur.com/bB5T6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/50QAF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/BogYp.jpg)
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Great! I was hoping these would be available!
Erik
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This looks good, but I am very hesitant to buy anything on Shapeways without a guarantee of quality.
On a similar note, how about an Oshkosh mixer-over-cab model?
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Looks nice, I'll be in for two shame there is still banding issues with shapeways models
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What time period were the Dry Bulk Trailers first introduced? Rich
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Pretty sure these started showing up in the late 1980's. I believe before this it was transported in bags within a box truck or in bulk in a sealed dump bed.
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I have seen the 1977 FRUEHAUF 985 CF PNEUMATIC TANKER and some from 1971 that are 40' long. What year is this 42' Dry Bulk Trailer from? and what trailer MFG.? Rich
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Nice. They look a lot better than I thought they would.