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General Discussion => Product Discussion => Topic started by: unittrain on May 01, 2018, 10:20:48 AM
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Which one would you like to see? I would say a GP30 or a GP9. With the excellent new Gevos that were just released I really want them to do a locomotive in N that was prominent in the 60s and 70s.
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Any of the U-boats not currently made..
CF7!!!
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DD35. That's about as prominent as you can get. :D
Yes, tongue in cheek, but - strangely - there was chatter at the UPHS convention last year about Scale Trains sniffing around to do it in HO.
I could use a U28C or two or three as long as they had Adirondack trucks.
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SD40-2 (with Flexcoil trucks when appropriate).
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DD35. That's about as prominent as you can get. :D
Yes, tongue in cheek, but - strangely - there was chatter at the UPHS convention last year about Scale Trains sniffing around to do it in HO.
I could use a U28C or two or three as long as they had Adirondack trucks.
I would definitely be a buyer for a DD35! Maybe they would do a standard cab DD40 as well?
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Something modern like the AFT T1
Here is the Paragon HO TI on this non Paragon 16 minute video review
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I would take a DD35 too.
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1960/1970's. So no DCC? :D
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I would definitely be a buyer for a DD35! Maybe they would do a standard cab DD40 as well?
Truthfully, the DD35 plays such a strong role in my choice of RR, era and region that I would mortgage the house to have a half dozen. My start-and-stop efforts to get a reasonable model from a Shapeways shell over a hacked Bachmann chassis is a pretty strong indicator I don't have the time to build such a fleet on my own and get everything else I want done.
I presume you mean a DDA35 since the DD40 never existed beyond the drawing board and EMD catalog (and Irv Athearn's failed attempt to "scoop" the HO market with a model). I could certainly go for a DDA35 in quantity, but a straight DD35 would bring in the SP modelers.
There was nothing, and I mean nothing like witnessing an ABBA set of DD35s in the flesh.
(http://www.everywherewest.com/dd35_abba.jpg)
[What did I just do to myself? :facepalm: "ABBA set." Now I can't get Dancing Queen out of my head. :-X ]
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U33/36C
Pretty much any U28-36B/C for that matter.
Criminally under represented.
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Pretty much any U28-36B/C for that matter.
Criminally under represented.
^^^ This
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"There was nothing, and I mean nothing like witnessing an ABBA set of DD35s in the flesh."
That's a scary thought. How many miles of hopper cars are past that ridge? Even in N scale, that would be measurable horsepower. You might need to design your own coupler to withstand the drawbar pull. Plus rebuilding the house to get more layout space to allow for the 40'+ long trains.
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1977 SP GP40X
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BL2...........
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AS616
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"There was nothing, and I mean nothing like witnessing an ABBA set of DD35s in the flesh."
That's a scary thought. How many miles of hopper cars are past that ridge? Even in N scale, that would be measurable horsepower. You might need to design your own coupler to withstand the drawbar pull. Plus rebuilding the house to get more layout space to allow for the 40'+ long trains.
20,000 HP was not unusual for UP at the time. The K-trains (http://utahrails.net/utahcoal/kaiser-trains.php) were initially 80-84 cars, and I think those particular cars were 100 tons gross. Train length was increased later to ~100 cars or 10,000 tons. This train was intended to have five SD45s (18,000 HP) in a pooling arrangement with DRGW, but in its waning days circa 1980 we were treated to one or two of these DD35 sets assigned to the service. Considering the age of the DDs at the time they must have had the 2000 HP to spare in case one (half) went down.
As to scale couplers... I have tested the MTL TSC with 60 cars up 2% with no trouble. While I would dial this back to fit my layout's 15-foot sidings, I think the foreshortened train with the full power consist would not look out of place.
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^^^ This
Yep. U-boats would be awesome.
As would an SD40 or SD45. All of the available (and unavailable options: I'm looking at you, :RUEffinKiddingMe: Kato) options are compromised in some way.
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GP40-2L.
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AS616
This, and regularly available SD45s. An SDP40 would be nice too, but I am not holding my breath.
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I presume you mean a DDA35 since the DD40 never existed beyond the drawing board and EMD catalog (and Irv Athearn's failed attempt to "scoop" the HO market with a model). I could certainly go for a DDA35 in quantity, but a straight DD35 would bring in the SP modelers.
There was nothing, and I mean nothing like witnessing an ABBA set of DD35s in the flesh.
(http://www.everywherewest.com/dd35_abba.jpg)
[What did I just do to myself? :facepalm: "ABBA set." Now I can't get Dancing Queen out of my head. :-X ]
Yes I did mean DDA35. I even bought some Atlas GP35 shells just to build one on the Bachmann chassis, but that is another project I hope to complete before a manufacturer does it for me!
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U33/36C
Pretty much any U28-36B/C for that matter.
Criminally under represented.
+1 for the U33/36C.
I'd also really like to see a good SD40 and SD45 in a full range of road names. There is a huge market for these given the prototypes' market reach and longevity. Kato's models are okay, but Kato stick to the same half a dozen or so railroads, and their models aren't released often and don't come sound-equipped from the factory. It's time for someone else to step in and make some real money from a popular prototype.
Doug
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Alright I'll throw it out there, U18B. Intermountain flirted around with the idea of doing them but never did.
I know there's a few people on here that would like to see them. Right Ron. ;) ;) :lol:
Jon
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Alright I'll throw it out there, U18B. Intermountain flirted around with the idea of doing them but never did.
I know there's a few people on here that would like to see them. Right Ron. ;) ;) :lol:
Jon
What he said! I know of 10 road numbers from one road that need to be done.
U33/36Cs would be cool too.
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GP40-2L.
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And make sure to do one with its dynamic brakes removed for KCS.
And for the love of (Uncle) Pete - a genuine U36B
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There was nothing, and I mean nothing like witnessing an ABBA set of DD35s in the flesh.
In the late 70s I saw a [DDA40X]-[DDA40X]-[Fast 40-2]-[DDA40X]-[DDA40X] set headed east with a UPS ToFC "mail train". West of Rawlins, WY.
29,400hp in Run 8. Shook the earth.
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I would buy a DD unit to keep company with my turbine! :D
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I'll second the U33b also and the SD45 . It's suprising no manufacturer has attempted a better version or any version at all on some of these key locomotives. I'm going to suggest some of these to ScaleTrains. I know they said Conrail modelers would be happy with there announcements this year. Which would indicate an SD40-2 with the proper trucks or a C39-8, as I'm sure any locomotive announced in N will be one they already did in HO. But who knows maybe they will surprise us with a GP30 or and SD45.
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Make that two votes for a GP40x
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I'll take a few DDA35, DD35, U50, and U50C units..... please.
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Here's another vote for U-boats - especially the U28B.
I mean, come on:
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rrpa_photos/108866/Scanned%20Image%20150070036.jpg)
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What he said! I know of 10 road numbers from one road that need to be done.
U33/36Cs would be cool too.
I would be another one to buy a ten unit set, even if I need to remortgage the house to do it.
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U33/36C
Pretty much any U28-36B/C for that matter.
Criminally under represented.
Yes.
(Arnold did do the U28C.)
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1977 SP GP40X
This too. I think that's three votes.
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This too. I think that's three votes.
4 now but I would want a modern UP repaint with Ditch lights
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My vote would be for an SD45 first, SD40, SD40-2, U30C, U33C, C30-7
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Yes.
(Arnold did do the U28C.)
Only the Phase I, which covers only 30 some odd units from CBQ and NP. The Phase II was the same as early U30C and covered the majority of the U28s made.
I would be very happy if anyone made U-boats or SD40 and SD45s The Kato units just don't cut it anymore.
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I'll second the U33b also and the SD45 . It's suprising no manufacturer has attempted a better version or any version at all on some of these key locomotives. ...
Did you forget the updated Bachmann SD45? Fundamental key details (radiator and DB flare) are fubar, so it's perfectly natural for it to slip from memory. I'd be good with Scale Trains doing an SD45... I must have a half-dozen first-run Kato SD45s on my workbench waiting for the roundtuit to redo the lettering and hack for DCC. They've been gathering dust for several years now. :facepalm:
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Did you forget the updated Bachmann SD45? Fundamental key details (radiator and DB flare) are fubar, so it's perfectly natural for it to slip from memory.:
I sure want to forget it! :D They got a lot right but with some HUGE fatal (in my book) flubs (Shell rides high on the chassis and the radiator flares are just wrong).
Mark
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SD40-2 :trollface: :trollface:
But seriously, a new GP7/9 would be great. A little earlier than the listed era, but so many were built and they've lasted so long with so many paint scheme...
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I sure want to forget it! :D They got a lot right but with some HUGE fatal (in my book) flubs (Shell rides high on the chassis and the radiator flares are just wrong).
Mark
Missed the traction motor blower duct walkways too, if I recall.
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Someone needs to put the Atlas GP30 out of it's misery.
Jason
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Someone needs to put the Atlas GP30 out of it's misery.
Jason
But I like my coffee grinders!
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GP30's and 35's. High hood especially
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Did you forget the updated Bachmann SD45?
I didn't forget. I just don't consider them serious models. Even the updated ones. There are just too many things wrong with them that are nearly impossible to fix.
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Since they seem to like those odd units, I would go for a GP40P-2, but alas I'm sure it will never happen as Athearn did it in HO, and since ST usually does HO stuff first, then N scale. It's more likely to never happen in N anyways.
Chris
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I'm in for a couple of U18B's.
Considering how many other Maine Central locos are out there, this is the one big one missing form the list.
Martin
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How accurate are the Atlas GP35s? I just ordered a couple Pennsy units.
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How accurate are the Atlas GP35s? I just ordered a couple Pennsy units.
They are pretty good. But the hood is 6" too wide.
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U33/36C
Pretty much any U28-36B/C for that matter.
Criminally under represented.
This and more SD40's / SD45's
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Some Alco FAs, MKT for me.........
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Is this a attempt to decide which locos Scale-Train might produce, or just a coffee shop chat about things we'd like to see? Wondering.
Oh, and forget about any FAs. As several TRW members will school you, there are still too many LL ones around and nobody wants any new DCC versions. And FAs ain't zactly '70s locos ...
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U33/36C
Pretty much any U28-36B/C for that matter.
Criminally under represented.
This and more SD40's / SD45's
SDs??? GPs????
U-boats (opposed to uBoots) maybe so, but with a proliferation of manfrs out there, who would be kamikaze enough to do more?
Look at the banging that Rapido and Kato get for just making something in another scale- they get it both ways till November....
FWIW, dave
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They are pretty good. But the hood is 6" too wide.
And the long hood number boards are just wrong (as are the number boards on the GP30 and the Kato SD40, SD45, and SD40-2). Still the best we got - I'm hanging on to mine until a better one is released. 8)
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Is this a attempt to decide which locos Scale-Train might produce, or just a coffee shop chat about things we'd like to see? Wondering.
Im wondering this myself. This type of thread is already a quarterly event, everyone chimes in with their most needed loco, and then we do it again in a few months :facepalm:.
I think I want Scaletrains to stick around, as their early offerings have been nicely done, albeit with some teething problems, but their first offerings were niche models. Even the new GE toaster thingy is limited to "modern" era modelers, or those who ignore era. I bet they would do very well with a more common prototype, such as the SD45s. That is, as long as they do the high nose version :trollface:;)
(https://www.therailwire.net/forum/gallery/5/1318-040518065849.jpeg) (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=5845)
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What teething ptoblems? These things are better out of the box than anything previously offered anywhere. Period!
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What teething ptoblems? These things are better out of the box than anything previously offered anywhere. Period!
I remember reading folks were not impressed with grab irons on the turbines, and also something about power pick up issues.. but your mileage may vary
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I remember reading folks were not impressed with grab irons on the turbines, and also something about power pick up issues.. but your mileage may vary
You might be thinking about this (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=43867.0) thread. It was not about a specific model, but about factory-applied free-standing grab irons in general. That thread did not end well (and no I have not yet "fixed" my Big Blow grabs). Like with everything out there, there are differing opinions about the subject. As for the Big Blow, it has some design/assembly/fit problems too (but so do most newly released models from most manufacturers). Those Big Blow discussions are in the forum's archive (if one was to search for them).
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You might be thinking about this (https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=43867.0) thread. It was not about a specific model, but about factory-applied free-standing grab irons in general. That thread did not end well (and no I have not yet "fixed" my Big Blow grabs). Like with everything out there, there are differing opinions about the subject. As for the Big Blow, it has some design/assembly/fit problems too (but so do most newly released models from most manufacturers). Those Big Blow discussions are in the forum's archive (if one was to search for them).
...And this is what I meant by :teething problems". I wasn't bashing ST , but I did notice not everybody was of the opinion that they were " better out of the box than anything previously offered", as stated by phil55..
....but it was their first N scale loco, and as a first efforts go, it is nothing to be ashamed of!
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...And this is what I meant by :teething problems". I wasn't bashing ST , but I did notice not everybody was of the opinion that they were " better out of the box than anything previously offered", as stated by phil55..
....but it was their first N scale loco, and as a first efforts go, it is nothing to be ashamed of!
While possible, I really don't think those are just teething problems. It is a problem tied to the people that design/build those models. Models from other companies that have their model design/assembly outsourced show similar shortcomings in their designs and quality issues with assembly. It is just the way things are in today's world. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Actually considering how many more free-standing details (which are all glued on by some assembly worker) there are on today's models compared to ones made 20 years ago, things aren't that bad. with let's say 50 or more individually glued on handrails or other do-dads per each model, the yield of acceptable quality models is pretty good. It is the overall design of those models that could be a bit better. But I think we are dealing with design engineers who aren't as innovative or clever as they could be. Then of course there are budgetary restraints which limits the design. More funds end up being allocated to all the super-detailing on the shell, leaving the mechanism under-desinged. At least that's how I see it.
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They probably due SD40p & SD45P
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How about an FT :) "ducks"
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How about an FT :) "ducks"
Still waiting for MTL to make them in Lehigh Valley and Lackawanna roadnames.
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DDA40X. This would be the very first time a serious manufacturer would release one in N scale :D
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And make sure to do one with its dynamic brakes removed for KCS.
And for the love of (Uncle) Pete - a genuine U36B
No problem... no GP40-2L or GP40-2W was delivered with DB. I thought that the KCS units had DB added during rebuild?
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No problem... no GP40-2L or GP40-2W was delivered with DB. I thought that the KCS units had DB added during rebuild?
It's one or the other - I honestly can't remember. It would appear, however you are correct - http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=889574 (http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=889574)