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new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« on: June 17, 2021, 11:45:46 AM »
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Got a Bachmann email today.  They have (re-)released a new 40' high-cube appliance car sliding-door model.  It appears to be a modified version of the original tooling back from the early days, the original body on a new floor/underframe.  Which in itself is not necessarily a bad thing as that bodyshell tooling was to scale and well done.

However, while the decoration is now state of the art, the car rides too high and they are very pricey, among other things.  But I believe unlike the Micro-Trains car that this is an accurate representation of the ATSF prototype, with the flat roof and other features.  So when they go on heavy discount, one can be acquired and reworked at a reasonable expense.



https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=265_392_396_1180

CORRECTION - the Union Pacific model is the plug door, so both bodystyles have returned.
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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2021, 12:11:04 PM »
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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2021, 01:36:55 PM »
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That car is higher than Snoop Dogg...
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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2021, 01:42:14 PM »
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LOL!  With a little lowering love, those should look good.

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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2021, 01:46:15 PM »
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Got a Bachmann email today.  They have (re-)released a new 40' high-cube appliance car sliding-door model.  It appears to be a modified version of the original tooling back from the early days, the original body on a new floor/underframe.  Which in itself is not necessarily a bad thing as that bodyshell tooling was to scale and well done.

However, while the decoration is now state of the art, the car rides too high and they are very pricey, among other things.  But I believe unlike the Micro-Trains car that this is an accurate representation of the ATSF prototype, with the flat roof and other features.  So when they go on heavy discount, one can be acquired and reworked at a reasonable expense.



https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=265_392_396_1180

CORRECTION - the Union Pacific model is the plug door, so both bodystyles have returned.

ATSF had interior posts similar to the UP plug door cars.

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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2021, 01:55:08 PM »
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However, while the decoration is now state of the art, the car rides too high and they are very pricey, among other things.

FWIW, the MTL model (otherwise a nice model) also rides too high.

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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2021, 02:06:33 PM »
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FWIW, the MTL model (otherwise a nice model) also rides too high.

More importantly, it has a peaked roof which is not great.
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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2021, 02:10:32 PM »
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More importantly, it has a peaked roof which is not great.

True, which is why I have an older Bachmann model in my ponderous "to do" pile.

I might trade that one out for one of these if some these $40 gems ever get "dumped".  :D

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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2021, 02:21:42 PM »
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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2021, 02:23:31 PM »
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Bachmann made a half@$$ed version of the interior post sliding door version in HO.   In addition to the thickness of the door, note that it is the wrong PS door that belongs on a PS-built car (ATSF cars were not) and is wider than 9'.

https://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=7186

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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2021, 03:39:08 PM »
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I replied to their email with this.

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You guys have GOT to be kidding with these.

These are train set quality cars with tooling from the... 60s? 70s?

And you want $40 for them?

I don't know what your product planning folks are thinking, but these are NOT what modelers are looking for.

If you want to charge premium prices for things, do more runs of your awesome stuff like the 44 tonners and various steam engines. Those are great and worth the money.

But a boxcar that looks like something I bought at Kiddie City back in 1983? You're on the wrong track.

I don't know if it'll make any difference, but at least it didn't bounce back.

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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2021, 03:46:50 PM »
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Ok so they are releasing four schemes: ATSF, BN, D&RGW, & UP.

The ATSF car (#14044) looks to be the wrong body:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf14037ary.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf14009jpa.jpg

The BN car (#281460) is the wrong body.
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2370679

The D&RGW car (#67422) also looks to be the wrong body:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/drgw/drgw67424jpa.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/drgw/drgw67430bgC.jpg

The UP car (#518126) looks fairly close.  :D
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/up/up518124a03.jpg

That knocks out three of them for me. :lol:

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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2021, 03:56:15 PM »
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That car is higher than Snoop Dogg...

Stealing this  :D

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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2021, 04:04:39 PM »
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Ok so they are releasing four schemes: ATSF, BN, D&RGW, & UP.

The ATSF car (#14044) looks to be the wrong body:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf14037ary.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf14009jpa.jpg

The BN car (#281460) is the wrong body.
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2370679

The D&RGW car (#67422) also looks to be the wrong body:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/drgw/drgw67424jpa.jpg
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/drgw/drgw67430bgC.jpg

The UP car (#518126) looks fairly close.  :D
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/up/up518124a03.jpg

That knocks out three of them for me. :lol:

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Bachmann X-post car with sliding doors is only good for SP, plug door car is only good for UP.

BN (from CB&Q or NP) and DRGW were PS-built cars like MTL (notwithstanding the roof and ride height issues), or HO models from Hi-Tech Details or Tangent.   IC and MILW also bought the PS-built cars. 

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Re: new Bachmann 40' high-cube appliance cars
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2021, 04:10:45 PM »
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CNW also had interior post cars with Superior sliding doors