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N Scale KCS SW1500
« on: January 08, 2017, 09:53:49 PM »
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With the announcement of the near term end of MTL production of the SW1500 (an iconic loco for more then Conrail Queens), I decided to get on with building mine in white.

When they first came out I grabbed one in UP (!) and after taking it apart, the shell was readied for its cerimoniap dunking:

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After bathing two hours in 91% isopropyl, it is ready for primer:

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We'll just pretend it's not molded in yellow plastic and move on, shall we?  :facepalm:
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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2017, 10:03:48 PM »
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I don't see anything, but a coat of Tamiya Fine White Primer might be a good idea to get a nice white final coat.  :D
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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2017, 09:39:29 AM »
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Not sure what you aren't seeing . . . . but the UP shell (Painted in Armor Yellow and Grey) is actually cast in yellow plastic.

So your recommendation is a good one.
Philip H.
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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2017, 03:47:29 PM »
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I don't see anything, but a coat of Tamiya Fine White Primer might be a good idea to get a nice white final coat.  :D

Oh yes, Tamiya Fine White is the cure for nasty/primer-colored plastic!

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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2017, 10:14:42 PM »
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Oh yes, Tamiya Fine White is the cure for nasty/primer-colored plastic!

  Frank

@peteski  (or anyone else) - doesn't Tamiya also make a polycarbonate primer thats good for the delrin handrails etc?
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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2017, 10:22:39 PM »
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Not sure what you aren't seeing . . . . but the UP shell (Painted in Armor Yellow and Grey) is actually cast in yellow plastic.

So your recommendation is a good one.

That was my poor attempt to your "We'll just pretend it's not molded in yellow plastic and move on, shall we?" statement.  My response should have been something like: No need to pretend - just shoot it with Tamiya Fine White primer.

As far as polycarbonate primer goes, I think that Tamiya does (or did) have a line of paints for polycarbonate, but I'm not really familiar with it.  I have some Pactra paints for polycarbonate bodies.  But I have also seen mentions (here on TRW) of modelers using adhesion promoter spray on handrails. You can get that in a spray can at auto supply stores.  If you search the forum for "adhesion promoter" you should be able to find more info.
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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2017, 10:26:40 PM »
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Thanks for the memory jog - I couldn't remember what I was looking for and google was doing a pissy job of reading my mind.
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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2017, 02:44:39 PM »
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Were there any SW1500's that were retrofitted with the full-length handrails on the sills before they were repainted gray?

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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2017, 10:14:43 AM »
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Were there any SW1500's that were retrofitted with the full-length handrails on the sills before they were repainted gray?

Honestly I'll have to look.

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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2017, 08:42:37 AM »
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Didn't get to answering that question yet, but did take delivery of some parts to replace the bell and one stack I lost:

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Not sure what I will do with the rest just yet. The retailer, small tank and gon load of scrap were a thank you for my first direct from MT order. @Shipsure - tell the shipping folks thanks - that was a neat surprise.
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"I'm trying to have less cranial rectal inversion with this." - Ed K.

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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2017, 12:52:06 PM »
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Didn't get to answering that question yet, but did take delivery of some parts to replace the bell and one stack I lost:

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Not sure what I will do with the rest just yet. The retailer, small tank and gon load of scrap were a thank you for my first direct from MT order. @Shipsure - tell the shipping folks thanks - that was a neat surprise.

+1 - I've had nothing but excellent customer service from MTL.


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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2017, 05:39:46 PM »
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Were there any SW1500's that were retrofitted with the full-length handrails on the sills before they were repainted gray?


Yes:

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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2017, 07:59:02 PM »
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Got some adhesion promoter and then started laying down the flat black:

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Also started spraying the white:

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Philip H.
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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2017, 10:50:03 PM »
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Lookin good. How do you like that spray booth?
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Re: N Scale KCS SW1500
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2017, 08:04:59 AM »
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it's good.  Not great, not fabulous, but good.  The initial spray points in those pics was too high so I cut down the foam paintbrush handles. sray lower and it really does well.  You just have to have new filter material - once it starts to get paint clogged it really drops off in the CFS department.
Philip H.
Chief Everything Officer
Baton Rouge Southern RR - Mount Rainier Division.

"Yes there are somethings that are "off;" but hey, so what." ~ Wyatt

"I'm trying to have less cranial rectal inversion with this." - Ed K.