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Window Edge Detail
« on: December 22, 2016, 07:28:38 PM »
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Has anyone figured out how to get the effect of the black rubber gasket that surrounds windows without it looking like crap?  I've tried all sorts of methods and I just can't get it to look good.  Attached is a prototype photo showing what I need to achieve.

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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2016, 09:02:05 PM »
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I've had some luck using decal stripes, though it takes a bit pf patience to work the stripes around the corners of the windows:



Some further details may be found in this old thread.

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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2016, 09:22:50 PM »
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I've done something like that on the custom-painted Atlas/Kato RS-3.  That was about 20 years ago and I think I just painted the body color (AcuPaint) then I took some Floquil engine Black on a small paint brush and I put it in the window opening then slightly ran it around the window opening. Some of the  paint ended up on the gasket molding.

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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2016, 09:29:45 PM »
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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2016, 11:58:40 AM »
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Mircoscale makes the decals you want in HO scale. http://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=87-1343  The only thing they make in N, which you could cut to fit is this.http://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=MD&Product_Code=60-1423&Category_Code=

I see both of those decals are available in N-Scale.  Thanks for posting that.  I will have to cut-to-fit because the windows on the loco I need to do are more oddly shaped than the ones I showed at the beginning of this thread.

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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2016, 01:50:30 PM »
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Mircoscale announced but never released 60-1343

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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2016, 06:24:23 PM »
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Doug

Mircoscale announced but never released 60-1343

BALLS !!  I saw it listed as "available" on the HO page and assumed it was.  I put it in the search engine and it is definitely "unavailable at this time".

I will try and make the passenger car set do what I need.

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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2016, 06:31:29 PM »
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Doug,
What I have done with great results is to use a Sharpie. I took one of the large chisel tip Sharpies and cut it down to a small chisel tip with a #11 E-Acto blade. Then I just very gently drew it across the raised window edge.

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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2016, 06:43:27 PM »
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Doug,
What I have done with great results is to use a Sharpie. I took one of the large chisel tip Sharpies and cut it down to a small chisel tip with a #11 E-Acto blade. Then I just very gently drew it across the raised window edge.

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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2016, 06:58:22 PM »
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Anything I've seen with a Sharpie looks dark purple and not black, unless you use it on paper.

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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2016, 08:27:44 PM »
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While we are talking windshields.  I thought I saw somewhere someone masked the windshield wiper area and sprayed Tamiya Pearl White. It look pretty good. Anyone try this?
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might even work in n scale vehicles windows
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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2016, 09:55:38 PM »
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While we are talking windshields.  I thought I saw somewhere someone masked the windshield wiper area and sprayed Tamiya Pearl White. It look pretty good. Anyone try this?

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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2016, 12:22:05 AM »
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A small brush and a shot of booze does the trick.

Or, alternately, I've liked the super fine markers. I forget the brand, but they look like this:
http://www.sharpie.com/en-US/ultra-fine-point-permanent-marker-sp-00067--1

The important thing is being able to "try again" if you blow it the first time. Hence the alcohol...  yeah, that's the reason.

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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2016, 12:34:28 PM »
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A small brush and a shot of booze does the trick.

Or, alternately, I've liked the super fine markers. I forget the brand, but they look like this:
http://www.sharpie.com/en-US/ultra-fine-point-permanent-marker-sp-00067--1

The important thing is being able to "try again" if you blow it the first time. Hence the alcohol...  yeah, that's the reason.

Sure it is...... :D

It's been my experience that the Sharpie does look more purple than black so I think I'll stay away from that method.  After the XMAS gong show at the post office is over, I'll order that passenger car decal set from Microscale and try that out.  If that also fails, I guess it's back to the black paint and small/tiny paint brush.  And here, Ed, is where that shot of booze may come in handy. :D

Doug
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Re: Window Edge Detail
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2016, 05:22:55 PM »
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I've done something similar on passenger car windows, so it might work for locomotive windows as well. I use a Sharpie *paint* pen, which are available at art and craft stores. For the windows in the photos, I used a medium tip pen, which is pretty large relative to the size of the windows. The idea is to draw around the outside of the window, but for the tip to be large enough to contact the outer edge of the window, leaving behind just a thin line of paint around the pane.


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