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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #75 on: August 13, 2013, 05:05:44 PM »
SLA.
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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #76 on: August 14, 2013, 05:39:35 PM »
SLA.
Wonder if there's an interchange in Sherbrooke?

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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #77 on: August 14, 2013, 08:15:51 PM »
Wonder if there's an interchange in Sherbrooke?

Though the SLA/SLQ does not mention the MMA as a connection, there appears to be a direct connection between them at Lennoxville. They'd seem the logical choice to be the designated operator west of Megantic.
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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #78 on: August 14, 2013, 08:21:17 PM »

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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #79 on: August 15, 2013, 12:06:05 AM »
So I buy a piano, and the guy driving the truck delivering it wipes out on a bridge, the piano goes over the bridge and lands on someone. I'm at fault?

Maybe they should add all the people in the Maritimes that buy fuel from Irving to the list of those liable.

Maybe add CN to the list, too. After all, they shared the same gauge.
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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #80 on: August 15, 2013, 05:18:10 AM »
In search of deeper pockets than MMA.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/quebec-wants-cp-railway-to-help-pay-for-lac-megantic-cleanup-1.1411159
This was in the local paper here, it is a tough challenge legally as it has to be proved that CP knowingly handed over the train the train to MMA and that it would be handled in an improper manner. 

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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #81 on: August 20, 2013, 09:13:12 AM »
The MMA has had their certificate to operate in Canada extended until October 1st... found insurance money.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/extension+license+operate+Canada/8799808/story.html
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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #82 on: August 21, 2013, 01:31:45 PM »
Lets hope they won't make another mess during that period ...
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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #83 on: August 22, 2013, 05:40:32 AM »
I want to thank you guys for all the updates.
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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #84 on: August 27, 2013, 06:57:33 AM »
Does that mean this Fox Valley car will become a collector's item?



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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #85 on: August 27, 2013, 09:02:49 AM »
JD Irving Ltd has expressed an interest in acquiring the MMA:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/08/19/business-mma-sale.html
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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #86 on: September 05, 2013, 12:15:03 PM »
Transport Canada has been digging into MMA's operations, does not look good

http://globalnews.ca/news/809729/warrant-reveals-concerns-about-second-train-near-lac-megantic/

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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #87 on: September 11, 2013, 12:18:07 PM »
This story keeps evolving.  The hazard rating on the shipment appears to have been in error as well:

http://business.financialpost.com/2013/09/11/lac-megantic-label-oil/

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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #88 on: September 11, 2013, 02:13:49 PM »
This story keeps evolving.  The hazard rating on the shipment appears to have been in error as well:

http://business.financialpost.com/2013/09/11/lac-megantic-label-oil/

All things being equal, the mislabeling isn't really an issue in this accident since the first responders probably knew there were super flammable contents when they arrived. I get it that it's a failure to follow the rules, but in no way would it have prevented this.
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Re: Crude oil derailment, fire
« Reply #89 on: September 11, 2013, 09:30:33 PM »
All things being equal, the mislabeling isn't really an issue in this accident since the first responders probably knew there were super flammable contents when they arrived. I get it that it's a failure to follow the rules, but in no way would it have prevented this.

It was classified as least flammable when it wasn't and places Irving Oil on the hook the for the lawsuit they are trying to get out of.