Awright, you "Z scale piddlers"...

[Ed Kapuscinski]

Any idea about the rationale behind the code words?

[3rdrail]

Any idea about the rationale behind the code words?

Yeah Ed, guess Western Union telegrams were long before your time. Western Union charged by the word, so a three word telegram cost a helluva lot less than a thirty word one. 

[Chris333]

I was going ask why Pittsburgh was mentioned, then I noticed your looking in a Porter catalog. The Bachmann locomotive is supposed to be a Baldwin.  I just wish I could find something that remotely resembles it because I want one. I can move the cab and rear driver back, but it helps to have photos or drawings to work from.

[3rdrail]

If Baldwin built it, it almost had to be for an overseas order, as there were no 30 inch gauge common carriers in the USA. While all builders built industrial locomotives, it was very much a sideline, although Baldwin did build a 36 inch gauge 4-4-0 in 1946 for the Unidos de Yucatan in México. Hmmm.

[Chris333]

I don't necessarily need to find a 30" gauge prototype, just something with the same overall proportions with the small drivers.

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/gallery/albums/album40/aah.jpg

In "The Book" I found these 2 with short wheelbases, but the drivers are larger:

[tom mann]

Gregg,

I think a lot of 36" gauge prototype are being released as 30" models.

[3rdrail]

Gregg,

I think a lot of 36" gauge prototype are being released as 30" models.

You opened that can o'worms. That's why I can't call it scale modeling. 

OR&W was Ohio River & Western, a 36" PRR subsidiary between Bellaire and Zanesville, OH. I cringe when I see OR&W (and EBT) used on 30" gauge stuff. Funny, 24" gauge expanded to 30" doesn't bother me near as much, probably because it would increase stability rather than decrease it.  :

[3rdrail]

I think I've found the prototype for Bachmann's On30 4-4-0. Several were built by Baldwin for the Mt. Gretna Railroad to 24 inch gauge. The Mt. Gretna served a hotel in the Poconos in Pennsylvania and was strictly a summer passenger operation.

You know, if Bachmann could offer its On30 models, like the Forney and the Consolidation in HOn30 to run on N scale track, they might sell me on that because there are so many beautiful structure kits made in HO.

[Chris333]

That is also what someone over at Ask the Bach man said:

http://www.pacificcoastairlinerr.com/photos/mt_gretna.jpg

To me the drivers look even closer together and the Mt. Gretna loco's had shrouds over the drivers.

Guess I should just give up and buy one  ;D

[Chris333]

Found another narrow(er) gauge 4-4-0


But no match. Any idea what E.F.O.M. is?

[3rdrail]

Found another narrow(er) gauge 4-4-0


But no match. Any idea what E.F.O.M. is?

The "E.F." stands for Estrada de Ferra, which is Portuguese for "Railway", so I'll bet the engine is Brazilian. They had some weird and wonderful railways in Brazil. Meter gauge Yellowstones and Texas types for example. The "O.M." could mean "Eastern" (Oriental) or "Western" (Occidental) some province or state beginning with "M".